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Forum topic by pipeline posted 07-01-2019 10:50 PM 358 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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pipeline

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07-01-2019 10:50 PM

am building a 2 door, 2 drawer center island / butcher block. I would like inset drawers although there is no divider on the interior behind center stile. Are there slides for this situation?


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CWWoodworking

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#1 posted 07-01-2019 11:37 PM

Well, not really. Not to be a smart a$$, but they can’t float? Maybe I’m missing something.

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Firewood

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#2 posted 07-01-2019 11:47 PM

Are you concerned that there is no sidewall between the drawers to attach the back end of the slide? If so, you can attach them to the back of the cabinet. If I’m not understanding your problem correctly, please provide a better explanation. I’m sure there is someone here who can help.

-- Mike - Waukesha, WI

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CWWoodworking

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#3 posted 07-02-2019 12:06 AM

This would probably work. But I think it would be easier and more versatile to use a mounting block.

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#4 posted 07-02-2019 12:12 AM

Most bottom mount slides will give you what you want.

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LeeRoyMan

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#5 posted 07-02-2019 12:40 AM

Where I’m getting lost is the “inset drawers” (all drawers are inset, aren’t they?)
Are you saying the drawer front will be inset?

If so you need to mount something to the back of the center stile, flush with the opening. A 3/4” block is enough to get one screw into a guide, and then a back mounted bracket for the rear of the guide.

If the drawer front is overlay, then most guides will screw to the side of the stile, just need the rear mounting bracket.

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CWWoodworking

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#6 posted 07-02-2019 01:02 AM



Most bottom mount slides will give you what you want.

- BlueRidgeDog

OP probably needs to specify if they are using an applied front or a front incorporated into the drawer box.

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BlueRidgeDog

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#7 posted 07-02-2019 12:58 PM


OP probably needs to specify if they are using an applied front or a front incorporated into the drawer box.

- CWWoodworking

True. Personally I would just put the center separator back 1” then extend the drawer face to close the gap and use standard slides. The look would be the same, but the function would be better in the long run.

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Robert

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#8 posted 07-02-2019 02:46 PM

Undermount slides.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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pipeline

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#9 posted 07-03-2019 08:23 PM

sorry for confusion, the drawer fronts will be inset therefore cannot mount slide to side of stile. I’ve ordered the KV front face frame bracket (8404) which I have not yet received. Was thinking of doing what LeeRoy suggested and use a mounting block behind the stile. Just thought there may be a piece of hardware out there that I’ve missed. Thanks For all the replies!

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#10 posted 07-04-2019 01:46 PM

Get an account setup with Haefel that way you can order things like this and get expert advice when necessary. Both Grass and Blum make great undermounts designed for inset drawers. Your slide will have a bracket in the front that will mount to the back of the faceframe on each side including the center stile without having to modify or add blocking. Then there will be a bracket for the back that will mount on the cabinet back. You want the brackets and adjustment latches that will offer adjustments in the up/down + side to side + in/out that way you can dial in your fit because on inset doors or drawers you will want every possible adjustment you can get.

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LeeRoyMan

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#11 posted 07-04-2019 03:05 PM


Your slide will have a bracket in the front that will mount to the back of the faceframe on each side including the center stile without having to modify or add blocking.

- SweetTea

Interesting, I tried looking, at Blum, for this bracket but couldn’t find it. Can you give me a link?

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