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Forum topic by sethmac posted 06-27-2019 02:58 AM 426 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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sethmac

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06-27-2019 02:58 AM

My wife and I just bought a new house and she wants the cabinets white. I prefer not to spend the money to pay someone and I like the idea of a few new tools and a new skill :)

I’m looking at an HVLP gun (either the purple 1.4 from Harbor Freight or the 2.3 Vaper from Northern Tool). I’m leaning towards the 2.3. I had planned to spray Benjamin Moore Advanced.

Any words of caution or advice? I don’t want to buy a complete HVLP kit.

I do need a new compressor so I though to pair the gun with an oiless McGraw 21gal compressor. Do you think that will be enough to paint kitchen cabinets?

I’m all ears!


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CWWoodworking

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#1 posted 06-27-2019 03:31 AM

I would recommend investing in a pressure pot system. I use the harbor freight ones. If you invest in one, replace the hoses with industrial hoses.

I would also look at a catalyzed product.

I don’t know much about BM advanced, but my guess it would spray well with a fine finish tip airless.

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hkmiller

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#2 posted 06-27-2019 10:56 AM

I sprayed my cabinets with Advance using a high-volume low-pressure sprayer with a 2.5 mm tip make sure you have a compressor that has enough cfm’s I did dilute the pain about 10% with water it’s sprayed wonderfully you’ll get a phenomenal finish just make sure you prep the cabinets well before you spray them. What’s your current finish on the cabinets?

-- always something

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sethmac

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#3 posted 06-27-2019 05:32 PM

I’m starting to lean towards a Fuji Semi Pro/Hobby Pro….looks like the default on the Hobby Pro is a 1.8 tip. Any experience on here?

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d38

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#4 posted 06-28-2019 07:11 PM

Rather than spraying paint with an HVLP, have you considered Target Coating’s white colored lacquer?
Its designed for HVLP and brush. And the tint base version can be colored with Benjamin Moore tints.
https://www.targetcoatings.com/product/emtech-em6500-wb-bright-white-custom-tint-lacquer/

If you’re considering the Fuji Semi Pro (2 stage turbine), also look at the Earlex 6003 which is a 3 stage turbine. You’ll get more air for better atomization. If you want detailed info on an Earlex, message “Earlextech”, aka Sam Hamory on this forum. He’s a Wagner customer service rep specializing in the Earlex HVLP line. He travels the winter woodworking show circuit, and demos spraying latex paint right out of the can with their model 5500, a 2-stage.

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sethmac

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#5 posted 06-28-2019 07:36 PM

Never messed with laquer…how much more difficult is it to work with?

I looked at the Earlex 5500, but got the impression the Fuji was a step up. Whole process has my head spinning :)

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#6 posted 06-28-2019 07:46 PM

An alkyd enamel paint will have superior abrasion/wear resistance vs a lacquer paint, important for kit cabs. Do you plan to use the spray gun just for paint or do you have other plans for it? I prefer compressed air type guns vs turbines due to a broader viscosity range capability as well as turn down ratio , ie choke down to more like a large airbrush or open the fan to several feet. Turbines can work just not as adjustable.

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#7 posted 06-28-2019 07:51 PM

I’m all over the place…my only plan right now is knocking out these cabinets. At one point I was thinking of just getting a big compressor and a HVLP gun from Northern Tool or HF.

We have an Airless that I’ve painted a cabin with but seems overkill for the cabinets…I can only imagine the mess.

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sethmac

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#8 posted 06-28-2019 07:52 PM

The paints I was looking at were:
- Benjamin Moore Advanced (i read it takes forever to cure)
- PPG Breakthrough (preferred due to drying time)

But consensus is tough to come by

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sethmac

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#9 posted 06-28-2019 08:10 PM

As far as what I see as most useful for me…it would be buying a bigger compressor (21gal?) for the garage and hooking up a gun.

But the more I read, the more it seems that might not work. At a bit of a loss.

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putty

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#10 posted 06-28-2019 11:19 PM

I got the Fuji semi pro for Christmas, I painted bathroom cabinets with SW emerald urethane water based.
I had to thin about 20% it sprayed good and has a very nice finish.

I am now doing the kitchen cabinets

-- Putty

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CWWoodworking

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#11 posted 06-29-2019 01:05 AM



The paints I was looking at were:
- Benjamin Moore Advanced (i read it takes forever to cure)
- PPG Breakthrough (preferred due to drying time)

But consensus is tough to come by

- sethmac

Can you spray a catalyzed solvent product? I have breakthrough on my cabinets. It holds up pretty well to water. Not as well to grease/grime of kitchens. Had a precat lacquer in my old house. Between the 2, I’d go with the precat. And it’s not as good as a post cat/conversion varnish.

If you are decided on water based. Just use your airless with a fine finish tip. Mine turned out very nice. Keep your equipment clean. Breakthrough likes to get chunkers in it.

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sethmac

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#12 posted 06-29-2019 03:34 AM

OK…tell me about Target Coating Waterbourne White Lacquer?

I planned to spray the boxes inside (we haven’t moved in yet). I’ve always heard about the dangers of lacquer…is the water-based different? Can I spray it inside? Can I spray it with a Fuji 2?

Here are the cabinets for reference:

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d38

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#13 posted 06-29-2019 02:25 PM

I’m using Target Coating 9300 clear finish and sanding sealer on indoor window trim and it works great. I haven’t used any of his other products.
But I’ve read a lot of good info about all of his products.
Its a small company, and the owner Jeff Weiss, will be the one answering your questions. A Facebook Message got an answer in a couple hours for me.
All of his products are designed to be sprayed. And a Fuji Semi Pro or other 2 stage turbine should spray it just fine.
Suggest you search LJ, and Google for Target Coating EM6500, and see if its right for you. As OSU55 said above, latex may be more durable. Do you have young kids/grand kids that need high durability?
If you like what you read, maybe make a new post on here specifically asking about EM6500.

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sethmac

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#14 posted 06-29-2019 02:41 PM

We have kids 3, 5 and 7 haha Durability probably will be a factor.

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#15 posted 06-29-2019 04:12 PM



We have kids 3, 5 and 7 haha Durability probably will be a factor.

- sethmac

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