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JerryLH

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06-25-2019 12:20 AM

Topic tags/keywords: planer

I’ve got a hankering for a new shelix type head planer or a new shelix head for my old Delta DC-33 13”, 220V planer I have. I’m considering the Jet 13 In. Bench Top Helical Style Head or Rikon – 13” Benchtop Helical Cutterhead – or – new cutterhead for my older, but good, planer—or something you suggest. I would ‘Greatly’ appreciate your feedback. Thanks.

-- Develop your character -- for it becomes your destiny. Jerry - Mannford, Ok


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EdDantes

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#1 posted 06-25-2019 02:04 AM

Why do you want to upgrade?

Personally, I would see going to a bench top/lunchbox style planer (even with a helical head) as a downgrade from what you have. If you’re insistent on buying somerhing now, I’d rather spend the same money on a Shellix head for the DC-33.

But if what you have is working for you now, I’d keep saving and upgrade to a 15” (at least) w/ a helical head (e.g. Grizzly G0453Z). Or even a combo J/P with helical head. Then you’re both upgrading your capacity and getting the helical head.

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JerryLH

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#2 posted 06-25-2019 03:11 AM

Thanks much for the info Ed, exactly the kind of feedback I am looking for. Has anyone had experience with the Cutech 40200HC-CT 13” Spiral Cutterhead Planer W/Carbide Inserts?

-- Develop your character -- for it becomes your destiny. Jerry - Mannford, Ok

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Charlie H.

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#3 posted 06-25-2019 03:35 PM

If you are itching to spend $600 you can get a Byrd cutter head and replace any / all bushings / bearing in the planer you have and you will have a “new” planer that is truly 10x better than any lunchbox planer on the market.

That Cutech does have a spiral cutter head, but it’s nothing like the Byrd shelix design.
As a side note the finish quality my very old Ryobi lunchbox planer produces leaves very little to complain about and it’s only a two knife cutter head.

If you just don’t want to work on machines I understand that too, I would look at the Dewalt 735 very hard.
Overall it’s probably the best portable planer available and has the best chip collection system by a wide margin.
You would be into one of those along with the Byrd cutter head for about $900.

-- Regards, Charlie in Rowlett, TX --------I talk to myself, because sometimes I need expert advice.---------

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JerryLH

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#4 posted 06-26-2019 01:36 AM

Thanks Charlie. The Byrd shelix for my Delta DC-33 (22-660) is $834.00 (best price I could find). I looked at the dewalt 735 just today (& thought of a Bryd shelix for the dewalt). I’m sure you & Ed about right about my DC-33 (& then’s there’s that little voice telling yourself what you should really do – not just what that other voice is saying Neeew , mmm, Neeeew, mmm). Thanks.

-- Develop your character -- for it becomes your destiny. Jerry - Mannford, Ok

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Charlie H.

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#5 posted 06-26-2019 02:36 AM

No one understands newtoolitis better than me so I get it.
Obviously I didn’t price the cutter for your machine, my bad.
Is there something wrong with the Delta planer ?

-- Regards, Charlie in Rowlett, TX --------I talk to myself, because sometimes I need expert advice.---------

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#6 posted 06-26-2019 01:13 PM

I’d just echo the thought – may be worth it to step up to a 15” planer.

-- Pete

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JerryLH

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#7 posted 06-26-2019 02:25 PM

Charlie – no, nothing wrong with the Delta. Just a case of, as you put it, newtoolitis. Thanks All

-- Develop your character -- for it becomes your destiny. Jerry - Mannford, Ok

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avsmusic1

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#8 posted 06-26-2019 03:58 PM

I’d wait until a 15” grizzly or something showed up used
Sounds like what you have is working fine so there isn’t a huge rush and that way the financial outlay isn’t as painful for the upgraded capacity in addition to the head

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pintodeluxe

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#9 posted 06-26-2019 04:56 PM

I use the Shelix in a Dewalt 735. I haven’t felt the need for a larger planer because I have a drum sander too. The Shelix head produces an excellent finish and avoids tearout almost completely.

Problem is, I could never go back to straight knives now!

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#10 posted 06-26-2019 07:31 PM



Thanks much for the info Ed, exactly the kind of feedback I am looking for. Has anyone had experience with the Cutech 40200HC-CT 13” Spiral Cutterhead Planer W/Carbide Inserts?

- JerryLH

If you’re wanting a spiral cutterhead, go with a Shelix. The Cutech is alright but there is a reason it is much cheaper.

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therealSteveN

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#11 posted 06-26-2019 08:54 PM

I bought this Griz before they started calling it the Extreme.

I don’t know the price points of the others mentioned. I imagine all of them are more than a few years ago, when I traded up. The Griz at that time was almost a thousand bux cheaper than the rest, and after using it, I cannot imagine what they bring to the table for that extra money?

-- Think safe, be safe

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BalsaWood

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#12 posted 06-26-2019 09:59 PM



I bought this Griz before they started calling it the Extreme.

I don t know the price points of the others mentioned. I imagine all of them are more than a few years ago, when I traded up. The Griz at that time was almost a thousand bux cheaper than the rest, and after using it, I cannot imagine what they bring to the table for that extra money?

- therealSteveN

As others have said from other planer topics, almost all the planers come from the same factory but with a different paint job. The one you listed is made in Taiwan though so I guess there might some differences… but I’m not sure.

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JerryLH

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#13 posted 06-27-2019 12:34 AM

Thanks again for the feedback. Part of my goal was to end up with a shelix type head. After doing more reading those I mentioned advertised helical ‘style’ head. I didn’t realize their cutters are HSS & not carbide. Not being carbide cutters eliminates them entirely as an option (for me). Thanks

-- Develop your character -- for it becomes your destiny. Jerry - Mannford, Ok

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JerryLH

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#14 posted 06-27-2019 12:35 AM

Thanks again for the feedback. Part of my goal was to end up with a shelix type head. After doing more reading those I mentioned advertised helical ‘style’ head. I didn’t realize their cutters are HSS & not carbide. Not being carbide cutters eliminates them entirely as an option (for me). Thanks

-- Develop your character -- for it becomes your destiny. Jerry - Mannford, Ok

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JerryLH

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#15 posted 06-27-2019 01:39 AM

In a dream I couldn’t figure out which one of these I would choose—what say yee. I couldn’t figure out what the difference is/was between the two 15” grizzlys. ——— Grizzly G0891 – 15” 3 HP Fixed-Table Planer w/Helical Cutterhead $1795.00 – or – Grizzly G0453Z – 15” 3 HP Planer with Spiral Cutterhead $1795.00 – or – Grizzly G1021X2 – 15” 3 HP Extreme Series Planer w/ Spiral Cutterhead. $1995.00 -or – Steelex ST1012 15-Inch Planer with Helical Cutterhead $1929.00

-- Develop your character -- for it becomes your destiny. Jerry - Mannford, Ok

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