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dottyw

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06-21-2019 01:08 AM

Topic tags/keywords: refinishing restoring rosewood problems mid century veneer oily question refurbishing finishing sanding

Hi all, I am new here, trying to help hubby who is having great difficulties with refinishing a MCM rosewood table. He has completed hundreds of refinishing projects quite successfully, never rosewood though. To cut a very long story short, he now has 2 – 3 layers of shellac on the table, plus a coat of oil based stain, the table needed it on the 2 large leaves, so all of it was stained. However after the staining I went to check and discovered some fine scratch marks, mainly along the edges. I assume he sanded the shellac with the wrong sand paper. He does not want to strip it again ( after 4 failed attempts..!!!. ).Can he move foreward? Could he put a tak coat and then stain again, then finish it with shellac or laquer ? Would this or anything else hide the scratches ? Your help is enourmously appreciated !


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#1 posted 06-21-2019 09:16 AM

Shellac should be fairly easy to fix since additional coats will meld into other coats- I’m not sure how the oil based stain would affect all this though.

If you continue on, a matte finish might cover them quite a bit. If you are going for gloss or semi-gloss finish, they’d show pretty easily.

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dottyw

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#2 posted 06-21-2019 11:10 AM

Thank you Balsawood for your quick response. To clarify, first there are several layers of shellac on the wood, to seal it , the last coat on top is the stain. He did it in this order because with the oily rosewood, staining first and then putting finishing coats over it did not work. Mind you, he was then working with poly urethane, it went milky-cloudy in areas. Hence now shellac, scratched, which is sitting under the stain. Could not get any water based rosewood stain, seems to be discontinued. Had not thought of matte finish, he was working with satin or semi gloss, thanks for the suggestion!

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#3 posted 06-21-2019 12:27 PM

You’re gonna hate me but, I think you have to sand those scratches out and refinish :-/ If it’s your table, then obviously you can do as you wish. But, if it’s for a customer, if you saw them, chances are they will see them.

Just my $.02…

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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dottyw

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#4 posted 06-21-2019 12:32 PM

It’s a table we bought for the purpose of refinishing and selling. The scratches are not on the wood itself, definitely not, they are very fine and happened when sanding the 2nd or 3rd coat of shellac.

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#5 posted 06-21-2019 12:45 PM

In that case, I’d say do as little as possible to still make the table salable ;-P If it were me, I’d probably try just sanding that area down to remove the scratches then re-stain just that area. Then another coat of shellac over the whole thing and finally re-stain the whole thing to get it back to a uniform color.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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dottyw

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#6 posted 06-21-2019 01:33 PM

Hi Kenny, thanks for your input. I am not sure if you understand that the scratches are on the shellac which is under the stain and not over the stain. My husband is reluctant to sand through the stain to get to the scratches … and thet it get to look all uniform.

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#7 posted 06-21-2019 01:55 PM

I’m kind of confused on what is going on here. So its not actually rosewood, but some other wood stained with a gel stain called “rosewood”? He sealed the wood with shellac that has scratches in it, them put gel stain over the shellac?

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dottyw

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#8 posted 06-21-2019 02:22 PM

First there are several layers of shellac on the wood, to seal it. Scratches happened when sanding the last coat of shellac, before applying the wipe on stain over it.
The wood is rosewood veneer. The last coat is a rosewood stain because the leaves of the table did not quite match the color nor grain pattern of the table. Putting the stain right on the table did not work. He tried it three times and had to strip it again. This particualr wood is too oily, is he found out after the fact, apparently this is the nature of some rosewood.
To proceed from here, the idea was to apply another tac coat of shellac over the stain, then another coat of stain in order to deepen the stain ( and hopefully now also hide the hair line scratches too), then proceed with finishing coats, either shellac or laquer.

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