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Forum topic by myxology posted 06-20-2019 02:32 PM 925 views 0 times favorited 22 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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myxology

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06-20-2019 02:32 PM

Hello all,

So it’s time to get a new saw! And I’m so stressed out. I just don’t want to make the wrong decision on such an important, expensive item. I am moving up from a 90’s Jet contractors saw. My budget is around $1500. I’d really like a hybrid saw. I’m limited to 110v because I don’t want to spend $3000 on a panel upgrade and I will only be living in this house for 3 or 4 years. I’m a hobbyist and I’ve been woodworking for 5 years and anticipate I will be doing more small projects like boxes, picture frames, and small furniture with some hardwoods, but not a ton of crazy exotic super hard woods.

My homework so far has me looking at these four saws. I have read reviews here on Lumberjocks and a variety of other places. They are listed in the order I am considering them
1. Grizzly G0771Z
2. Jet 725000K ProShop II
3. Shop Fox W1837
4. Laguna Fusion 2

In the Sacramento area we have both a Rockler and a Woodcraft, so I may be able to go check a couple of these out in person. Also, I have ruled out the Saw Stop because I don’t feel the need for the feature.

Why is it that when I’m reading reviews I focus on the bad ones and not the 200 other good ones? I would appreciate some feedback from you all. I’m not in a big hurry, but I’m sure we all know what it feels like to wait once you have the money and you’re ready to go. :) Thanks in advance!

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ibewjon

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#1 posted 06-20-2019 02:42 PM

If it helps, many tools come wired for 120v, but change some motor wiring and replace with the proper plug, and the tool will operate on 240v.

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Davevand

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#2 posted 06-20-2019 03:11 PM

A few years back I went through this same dilemma. I chose the Powermatic PM1000. I know it is a bit over your price point but I bought mine during the black Friday sale and free shipping. I did not like the design of the Jet, just looks like a contractors saw. I looked at both the Laguna and the PM closely, at the time the PM had slightly better reviews and they were nearly the same cost delivered.
I am very happy with my PM1000.

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CaptainKlutz

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#3 posted 06-20-2019 04:17 PM

How far away from shop is the Dryer? :-)
Many laundry rooms are next to the garage work shop. Dryer has 240V 30A receptacle, it’s not being used ALL the time, right? It’s easy to make an extension cord to reach garage as voltage loss on 240V is lower than conventional 120V. Can run easily run 50-75ft of 12/3 cord to garage and power most any < 3HP wood working tool. Use 10/3 and can run the 5HP tools.
Just a thought.

Regarding saw list, never used any of them – sorry.

Note that Grizzly and Shop Fox typically come from same factory, and may only be different cabinet and paint?

Check your Laguna product availability before deciding. Laguna has discontinued some models, and replaced with others. Based on the appearance differences of the new/old laguna cabinets, seems that they are having tools made in Taiwan instead of China source they have been using, just like some of the others to avoid tariffs. Newer models look similar to Grizzly/Jet now.

Best Luck

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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WoodenDreams

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#4 posted 06-20-2019 07:35 PM

Being frugal I went with the Grizzly G0771Z, had it for 2 years now and very happy with it. I liked the price and having cast extension wings instead of sheet metal wings. 120v/240v options are nice. I did pay $880 including shipping. It allowed me to get a Grizzly G1531 6×80 Edge Sander at the same time. Paid for both $1550 2 yrs ago.

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Fiddy

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#5 posted 06-21-2019 10:14 AM

I had bought the Jet hybrid, lightly used some years back. Have since sold when I found a PM66 I was wanting. That was a great saw and would be in the budget range you’re looking for. Motor could be wired for 110/220 so would allow some advantage down the road for you. I will say it’s pretty well powered with one exception, thick hardwoods. I had stopped the saw a good handful of times in that scenario. If you go this route or hybrid and you intended on cutting any thicker hardwoods, just know you might be wanting a bit more.

I’ll wrap in saying once I landed on a good thin kerf blade along with using a splitter/riving knife, issues were almost none.

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tmasondarnell

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#6 posted 06-21-2019 11:56 AM

I go through the same FOMO (fear of missing out) every time I have to make a big purchase or for something I care about. You are not alone.

All of the saws you list are great options.

You may not want to hear, but there most like will be no objective reason to choose one over another.

Go with your gut. You can’t make the wrong decision with this list.

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myxology

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#7 posted 06-21-2019 02:32 PM

This is so solid. Seriously, great feedback. Thanks!


I go through the same FOMO (fear of missing out) every time I have to make a big purchase or for something I care about. You are not alone.

All of the saws you list are great options.

You may not want to hear, but there most like will be no objective reason to choose one over another.

Go with your gut. You can t make the wrong decision with this list.

- tmasondarnell


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bondogaposis

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#8 posted 06-21-2019 03:50 PM

If it was my decision I would wait until I had 220v, then get a cabinet saw. The advantage of a hybrid over a contractor saw is not great, unless there is some thing wrong with your saw.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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sansoo22

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#9 posted 06-21-2019 03:53 PM

When reading reviews its good to take the 5 and 1 star ratings with a grain of salt at first. Many in the 5 star camp are just super excited about a new product and write the review before they have time to really judge it. And conversely the 1 star group are often unreasonable and/or unintelligent individuals who would complain if you gave them a free car because it was the wrong color or they didn’t know they had to pay taxes on it.

I tend to start with the 3 star reviews. You will usually get a good sense of any pitfalls either in reliability or design of the product. From there i spot check 1 and 5 star reviews that are a paragraph or more in length because I know someone put some thought into it.

Sorry I can’t really help with your saw choices. I chose to buy a new house instead of a new saw. Kind of a “sledge hammer meet nail” sort of solution but i was out of space anyway.

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SSotolongo

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#10 posted 06-22-2019 12:10 AM

Why 3k to upgrade to 240? Is your house an older house with a small panel and you can’t just add an additional breaker? If your panel has open slots or you can add a tandem breaker or two, its not very complicated to do. You can find a bunch of youtube videos on it. I did it and it cost me $100 in materials. The best I can say is don’t focus on all the fringe benefits a saw offers. Know what you will be doing with it and look for options that fit those parameters. There are lots of saws out there and there is no one top saw of them all. It’s really different strokes for different folks. There’s always going to be someone who bought a product and unfortunately got a bad one or is ripping a competitor. If you have 200 good reviews and 3 or 4 bad ones, that’s to be expected. It’s generally going to be a good product.

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SMP

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#11 posted 06-22-2019 12:17 AM

If you have A/C you should be able to swap the tandem breaker for a quad. It was about $50 for mine.

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Aj2

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#12 posted 06-22-2019 01:38 AM

I was wondering the same thing why does it cost so much for a 240v circuit. Maybe the op isn’t very electric savy .
He did mention he has a 110v.
Im thinking a licensed electrician is in order here.
Don’t look to You tube that’s bad advise.

GoodLuck

-- Aj

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myxology

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#13 posted 06-22-2019 06:07 AM

Hey all, thanks for the feedback. I guess I could have been more specific about the power. I have 100amp panel right now and it’s completely maxed out. I can’t add another circuit. I’d have to do a panel upgrade. Since I’m not living here for more than a few years, I’m not sure I want to spend the money on that upgrade.

I went and looked at the Jet and the Laguna today at Rockler. Both of them seemed like good saws, but I think I’m going to go with the Grizzly. It’s going to be a couple of hundred dollars less expensive. It also seemed like the fence was the thing people picked on the most. I figure I could buy a Beismeyer fence for the difference if I hated it and still be a little money ahead. Also, Grizzly sometimes offers a Veteran’s discount, so I’ll try to take advantage of that too. I haven’t bought it yet and I’m still open to ideas, but that’s where I’m at for now. I’ll post something when I finally make up my mind. :)

Thanks again!

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sgcz75b

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#14 posted 06-22-2019 03:52 PM

You will find the Grizzly a wise choice. Your veteran discount will pay for the shipping. I have several Grizzly tools and they are the best value for the money I’ve found. All are well-made and the customer service is excellent.

Good luck with your new saw.

-- "A dying people tolerates the present, rejects the future, and finds its satisfactions in past greatness and half remembered glory" - John Steinbeck

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sgcz75b

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#15 posted 06-22-2019 03:52 PM

You will find the Grizzly a wise choice. Your veteran discount will pay for the shipping. I have several Grizzly tools and they are the best value for the money I’ve found. All are well-made and the customer service is excellent.

Good luck with your new saw.

-- "A dying people tolerates the present, rejects the future, and finds its satisfactions in past greatness and half remembered glory" - John Steinbeck

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