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MintyVictor

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06-17-2019 07:39 PM

I recently acquired a 1950 14” Delta bandsaw that’s in fantastic shape and just needs a bit of a tune up. I would really like to find a 14” riser kit for it. While Delta would be nice, if you have something that can be modified to work, I am open to that as well.

Thanks!


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therealSteveN

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#1 posted 06-17-2019 08:05 PM

That BS is considered the BS that all the others are cloned off of. Virtually any makers can be made to fit. The one biggest difference is they have 2 small pins on the top side (locator pins) to I guess keep it from sliding off as you assemble it. Sometimes the pins are just off. If they don’t fit most just grind them off.

Doesn’t really matter as there is a large heavy bolt on the saw now, and the kits give you the same bolt, just long enough to span the distance. I’ve placed several risers on several 14” BS’s and have never had one try to fall apart as I was assembling it. Once the bolts are tight, it’s not going anywhere.

Plus they give you a longer blade guard, so you don’t have blade exposed.

If you look at a number of these 14” saws it’s interesting to note many of them have a different color on the riser, from mix and matching. Therefore I would buy the lowest priced one I could find.

I used to buy the HF ones. You would call the Tech Service desk for them, not the regular customer service desk. 69 bux when I bought my last one, but that was about 4 years ago.

Google search for them here.

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Andybb

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#2 posted 06-17-2019 08:26 PM

EDIT – therealSteveN beat me to it, but yes.

Just Google Delta Riser Block Kits. The risers themselves are pretty universal even if you have to remove/grind off a pin or two. The issue is the other hardware needed. i.e some of the height adjustment posts are round and some are hexagonal. They can be gotten for $100 as long as everything fits. Just be careful. There are some minor differences in how everything fits together.

What do you want to do after you get the riser kit? If it’s just for rough cutting taller stock OK. If you’re looking to do a lot of resawing or veneer making you may be disappointed with the results. Ask me how I know.

You just might find a Craigslist listing for an old Delta with a riser already on it for close to what you’ll have to pay for a kit. If it fits you’ll get the parts you need and a motor for God knows what future project. The question is what will fit a 1950 era machine.

Other than Delta hopefully someone on here will remember the name of a vendor (whose name I can’t remember) that carries all of those parts and knows what you need.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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Aj2

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#3 posted 06-17-2019 10:04 PM

I recommend if you need to Resaw more then the 6 or 7 inches then that saw will do. Buy a bigger bandsaw.
Maybe you’ll get lucky and everything will be fine. My experience with bandsaws is they are fickle mystery machines that develop problems for no apparent reasons.
Once they go south foul language and loss of sleep are sure to follow. :(
Unless it’s a machine you don’t rely on.
Good Luck

-- Aj

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#4 posted 06-17-2019 10:25 PM

+1. That’s what I meant when I said you might be disappointed. No matter how hard you try you can’t get a clear picture from a fuzzy negative. If your goal is to resaw tall boards you need a better saw.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#5 posted 06-18-2019 01:11 AM



+1. That’s what I meant when I said you might be disappointed. No matter how hard you try you can’t get a clear picture from a fuzzy negative. If your goal is to resaw tall boards you need a better saw.

- Andybb

Doesn’t have to be bigger, just better and one piece.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#6 posted 07-03-2019 02:17 PM

Grizzly is running a 4th of july sale on their riser blocks.

I, personally, put a Jet riser block on my $200 Ridgid BS14001 bandsaw, added a “QR Tensioner” from the parts list on a Grizzly G0555 “ultimate” bandsaw (parts cost about $45), and a Baldor 1.5HP motor I got insanely cheap..
My $550 bandsaw was upgraded over time as I found a deal on the parts or pieces, it’ll saw 10” oak logs all day long..

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therealSteveN

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#7 posted 07-03-2019 04:45 PM



I recommend if you need to Resaw more then the 6 or 7 inches then that saw will do. Buy a bigger bandsaw.
Maybe you’ll get lucky and everything will be fine. My experience with bandsaws is they are fickle mystery machines that develop problems for no apparent reasons.
Once they go south foul language and loss of sleep are sure to follow. :(
Unless it’s a machine you don’t rely on.
Good Luck

- Aj2

I can’t remember ever seeing a thread about a person with an 18” BS or larger saying they can’t resaw. It’s always the 14” Delta clones.

Those old Delta 14’s and all their Cousins do a fine job as a curve cutter, or maybe as you say resaw up to 8” without a lot of drama. Trying to go the full 12” is pretty hard to do with regularity, especially compared to the bigger saws.

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therealSteveN

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#8 posted 07-03-2019 05:11 PM


Doesn t have to be bigger, just better and one piece.

- Andybb

Heavier weight, bigger more powerful motors, a wheel that would allow you to use a blade bigger than 1/2”, but mostly the frame, just too much flex on the Delta/clones frames. You can pretty much swap out everything else on them, but the frame, and wheels.

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MintyVictor

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#9 posted 07-04-2019 05:39 PM



Grizzly is running a 4th of july sale on their riser blocks.

I, personally, put a Jet riser block on my $200 Ridgid BS14001 bandsaw, added a “QR Tensioner” from the parts list on a Grizzly G0555 “ultimate” bandsaw (parts cost about $45), and a Baldor 1.5HP motor I got insanely cheap..
My $550 bandsaw was upgraded over time as I found a deal on the parts or pieces, it ll saw 10” oak logs all day long..

- rbrjr1

Do you have a source for insanely cheap Baldor motors? I’d love more info here

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rbrjr1

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#10 posted 07-05-2019 04:15 PM


..and a Baldor 1.5HP motor I got insanely cheap..
-rbrjr1

Do you have a source for insanely cheap Baldor motors? I d love more info here
- MintyVictor


I dont have a source per se, I had the cash on hand when I ran across it. 1.5HP 120/240 3450rpm and it cost me $150. It was still in the manufacturer’s box and bolted to the wood shipping plate. There was a small dent in the fan housing (it is TEFC) which I was able to smooth out.
I originally purchased it for a table saw upgrade, but used it for the bandsaw instead, I just had to change out the pulleys to bring the speed down to 1725rpm.

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MintyVictor

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#11 posted 07-07-2019 02:03 AM


..and a Baldor 1.5HP motor I got insanely cheap..
-rbrjr1

Do you have a source for insanely cheap Baldor motors? I d love more info here
- MintyVictor

I dont have a source per se, I had the cash on hand when I ran across it. 1.5HP 120/240 3450rpm and it cost me $150. It was still in the manufacturer s box and bolted to the wood shipping plate. There was a small dent in the fan housing (it is TEFC) which I was able to smooth out.
I originally purchased it for a table saw upgrade, but used it for the bandsaw instead, I just had to change out the pulleys to bring the speed down to 1725rpm.

- rbrjr1

I’d be interested to know about the pulleys you used. I am also curious if you ever ran it at 3450 rpm. I just read through the Iturra Design catalog, and they ran a bandsaw at 3450 with good results.

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rbrjr1

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#12 posted 07-08-2019 08:52 PM


..and a Baldor 1.5HP motor I got insanely cheap..
-rbrjr1

Do you have a source for insanely cheap Baldor motors? I d love more info here
- MintyVictor

I dont have a source per se, I had the cash on hand when I ran across it. 1.5HP 120/240 3450rpm and it cost me $150. It was still in the manufacturer s box and bolted to the wood shipping plate. There was a small dent in the fan housing (it is TEFC) which I was able to smooth out.
I originally purchased it for a table saw upgrade, but used it for the bandsaw instead, I just had to change out the pulleys to bring the speed down to 1725rpm.

- rbrjr1

I d be interested to know about the pulleys you used. I am also curious if you ever ran it at 3450 rpm. I just read through the Iturra Design catalog, and they ran a bandsaw at 3450 with good results.

- MintyVictor


2.5” on the motor, 5” on the bandsaw. it cut the RPM in half.
never tried it at 3450, but I DO have another 2.5” pulley that I could install, I doubt i will though..

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MrUnix

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#13 posted 07-08-2019 09:19 PM

Just an FYI: Those saws were designed to run at ~3000 SFPM or less, so I would be careful if you go experimenting!

Original saw (pre-70’s) ran with a 2.75” motor pulley and 8” wheel pulley. ~2172 SFPM.
Later (post-70’s) ran with a 2.75” motor pulley and a 6” wheel pulley. ~2896 SFPM

2.5” motor pulley with a 5” wheel pulley = ~3160 SFPM

Cheers,
Brad

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rbrjr1

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#14 posted 07-09-2019 06:20 PM



Just an FYI: Those saws were designed to run at ~3000 SFPM or less, so I would be careful if you go experimenting!

Original saw (pre-70 s) ran with a 2.75” motor pulley and 8” wheel pulley. ~2172 SFPM.
Later (post-70 s) ran with a 2.75” motor pulley and a 6” wheel pulley. ~2896 SFPM

2.5” motor pulley with a 5” wheel pulley = ~3160 SFPM

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix


thanks.

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MintyVictor

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#15 posted 07-12-2019 11:02 PM

I have found a riser block! However, I have an additional question related to the right blade guard, and that thread can be found here:

https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/305425

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