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Forum topic by OleGrump posted 06-17-2019 05:33 PM 1020 views 0 times favorited 25 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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OleGrump

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06-17-2019 05:33 PM

Here’s a tip for those who periodically/regularly/habitually post woodworking videos on YouTube. KEEP THEM SHORT AND TO THE POINT. First thing we check is the subject of the video. The second thing we check is the LENGTH. If a video starts out with someone blathering away for several minutes without DOING or SHOWING anything, we exit out and go to another video which WILL jump right in and show us how that individual did their project.
Brevity and succinctness are BLESSINGS for viewers and videographers alike. If you keep your videos SHORT and SIMPLE, more people will watch more of your videos more often. We don’t really need to see EVERY screw that is driven, or each repetitive cut made. We’re really only interested in the most important points of how to go about doing or making something. One tires of having to mute videos and going forward to very end when we finally get to see the end result.
The ABSOLUTE BEST video I ever saw, instructed the viewer on installing a Lazy Susan in an existing corner cabinet. It showed you EXACTLY how to do it, in a total of TWO MINUTES, TWENTY-EIGHT seconds. A bit extreme to be sure, but makes the point. Remember, There are NO lengthy famous quotes, only short ones.

-- OleGrump


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therealSteveN

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#1 posted 06-17-2019 08:14 PM


If a video starts out with someone blathering away for several minutes without DOING or SHOWING anything, we exit out and go to another video which WILL jump right in and show us how that individual did their project. Brevity and succinctness are BLESSINGS for viewers and videographers alike.
- OleGrump

Sage thoughts. 100% agreement. As a matter of fact some of my favorites just show you with an occasional text in the screen, and no talkie whatsoever. Monkey see Monkey do kinda thing. :-)

Frank Horvath does talk some, but I love his video manipulations, so I don’t mind, plus he’s pretty succinct.

Evidently this guy thinks like I do.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#2 posted 06-17-2019 09:21 PM

My favorite is the guy who recites the pledge of allegiance before every video. :-)


Evidently this guy thinks like I do.

- therealSteveN

Interval stop motion is one thing but stop motion without being in the picture is waaay to much work. :-)

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#3 posted 06-17-2019 09:26 PM

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-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#4 posted 06-17-2019 10:42 PM


If a video starts out with someone blathering away for several minutes without DOING or SHOWING anything, we exit out and go to another video which WILL jump right in and show us how that individual did their project. Brevity and succinctness are BLESSINGS for viewers and videographers alike.
- OleGrump

Sage thoughts. 100% agreement. As a matter of fact some of my favorites just show you with an occasional text in the screen, and no talkie whatsoever. Monkey see Monkey do kinda thing. :-)

Frank Horvath does talk some, but I love his video manipulations, so I don t mind, plus he s pretty succinct.

Evidently this guy thinks like I do.

- therealSteveN


now that is a cool stop motion video,i can only imagine how much time that took to film.
i also agree about videos where they just show you the project without narration,i just need to see what there doing to understand it.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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MSquared

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#5 posted 06-17-2019 11:23 PM

7-10 minutes on one topic is the max attention span of the majority of humans. 7 minutes being the ideal. Beyond that, the presentation should be divided into segments. The video by Frank Horvath is superlative! Don’t try this at home! He’s truly a professional. My guess is it’s an award-winner.

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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#6 posted 06-17-2019 11:37 PM



7-10 minutes on one topic is the max attention span of the majority of humans. 7 minutes being the ideal. Beyond that, the presentation should be divided into segments.
- MSquared

LOL. Depends on the video. I’m a binge watcher. Give me all of the info and I’ll decide when I’ve had enough. YouTube knows where I left off.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#7 posted 06-18-2019 04:52 AM

100% agree, I think twice before watching anything over 8 minutes, but the longer the video the more ads and more ad revenue for both youtube and the videographer so that’s why videos are getting longer.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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hairy

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#8 posted 06-18-2019 11:58 AM

Frank Howarth, not Horvath. His shop is what I think heaven might look like.

-- My reality check bounced...

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OleGrump

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#9 posted 06-18-2019 12:16 PM

Text on screen would be the most ideal situation, and maybe some finger pointing at important elemants of a project….(especially if we have to MUTE the video to shut out the musical “score” that’s been added.) If a LITTLE talking is required to explain something, we understand that.
Great point about the 7-8 minute maximum attention span limit. I just wish some Clergy would get that point. No, that’s not thunder, it’s God snoring…..
As Archie Bunker used to say “Get to the POINT, Edith…….”

-- OleGrump

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Keith Kelly

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#10 posted 06-19-2019 07:00 PM

What are your thoughts on having a choose-your-own-adventure sort of shortcut? The video I posted yesterday (Dust Collection Smoke Testing) was particularly long (33 minutes). So within the first couple minutes I showed a thumbnail of a bright green screen, instructing the user to skip ahead to that if they wish to get closer to the how-to section.

Also I used a bunch of audio, so this style of video is probably not your cup of tea for multiple reasons. That being the case, I’d welcome any opinions you have on the various videos on my channel, as I’m still tinkering with various production styles.

Note: 33m is particularly long for my channel. Most videos will be under 10m.

-- Keith | Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/c/KeithsTestGarage

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#11 posted 06-19-2019 07:04 PM



What are your thoughts on having a choose-your-own-adventure sort of shortcut? The video I posted yesterday (Dust Collection Smoke Testing) was particularly long (33 minutes). So within the first couple minutes I showed a thumbnail of a bright green screen, instructing the user to skip ahead to that if they wish to get closer to the how-to section.

Also I used a bunch of audio, so this style of video is probably not your cup of tea for multiple reasons. That being the case, I d welcome any opinions you have on the various videos on my channel, as I m still tinkering with various production styles.

Note: 33m is particularly long for my channel. Most videos will be under 10m.

- Keith Kelly


i looked at it and saw 33 minutes and went no further,as many have said anything longer than 10 minutes is a turn off.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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Keith Kelly

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#12 posted 06-19-2019 07:06 PM


I think twice before watching anything over 8 minutes
- Woodknack

Same. Except for This Old Tony. I’ll watch his stuff no matter how long it is.


but the longer the video the more ads and more ad revenue for both youtube and the videographer so that s why videos are getting longer.

To clarify, this is not always the case. The video creator would need to turn on the in-video ads for that to happen. In my case, I won’t do that. I’m specifically limiting my ads to skippable ads before the video. So, I could actually make more off of ad revenue if I split a long video into a series.

And, I disable ads altogether on short videos specifically related to safety.

-- Keith | Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/c/KeithsTestGarage

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MSquared

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#13 posted 06-19-2019 07:35 PM

Kudos for creativity, presentation and editing. Too much ‘Schmooze’. Love Baby Deer, love little kids. But neither have anything to do with the topic.

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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OSU55

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#14 posted 06-19-2019 09:20 PM

Gotta agree with about all the recommendations. Can’t stand long intros, many want to show a logo, pic of favorite project, whatever, play some real crap music. Hey, pop your info up for a few seconds and get on with it – I can go back to look if need be. Next show the finished thing so I can decide if Im interested, and definitely keep the verbiage short as well as shots of your mug or shop or dog or kids or whatever, I dont care about you, Im interested in the thing, the method, etc. Next go into the details. Many times showing something in reverse, i.e. start at the end and go thru in reverse order, actually explains steps more clearly.

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#15 posted 06-19-2019 09:26 PM

Depends on the video creator. Some videos I can’t watch because of the creators voice. Others I can watch 30+ minute videos( project binky come to mind on long videos). It all depends on what the subject is and how good the information given is or how regurgated it is.

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