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Samsonite

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06-05-2019 02:56 PM

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I recently received A grizzly 12” jointer and previously used a Grizzly 8” jointer. New jointer (G0834) has parallelogram table adjustment (4 eccentric bushings on each table). After I got it out of the crate I started checking outfeed and infeed tables and noticed it was in need of adjustment as I expected. I used my Veritas straight edge and feeler gauges and got the outfeed adjusted. The problem I encountered was with the infeed table and I believe there is a twist or cupping in it. I always end up about 12 thousandths of inch difference from fence side to fron of machine and seems like I have a high spot on fence side toward the tail of infeed table.
I spoke with Grizzly technical support 3 times now and they always reference manual which is standard table adjustment guide. I’m at the point now where I would like to reach out for professional help. Does anyone know of service provider who can come out and help adjust my jointer, I’m in the Seattle area.
I have spent about 6 hours now and got to the point where I’m doubting myself and would like to have another person look at it.
Thanks


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#1 posted 06-05-2019 06:18 PM

I would call a cabinet shop and see if they knew of anyone. A Bing search turned up 5 of them. I talked to the folks at Woodcraft when I needed someone when in a similar position as you are in – somewhat helpful

-- Rich Gig Harbor, WA

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#2 posted 06-05-2019 06:19 PM

prob a silly question, but have you used your straight edge on the infeed table to verify it’s ground flat?

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#3 posted 06-05-2019 06:24 PM

winding sticks would help with finding a twist

-- Rich Gig Harbor, WA

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#4 posted 06-05-2019 06:25 PM

I did check indeed and looks like a bit of cupping but Grizzly has not verified spec for tolerance so don’t know what is acceptable. It’s about 4-6 thousandths.

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#5 posted 06-05-2019 06:26 PM

I was thinking a cabinet shop might know so thanks for that recommendation.

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#6 posted 06-05-2019 06:38 PM

I’ve said this before and will say it again. You should use a precision straight edge to adjust jointers.
The Veritas aluminum one isn’t good enough.
I’ve tune a few jointers first thing to do is get a good idea of the tables. With a short precision straight edge make a drawing. Of the tables highs and lows
Set the out feed to the body of the head then the infeed to the outfeed.
With a new machine be sure it’s a table alignment problem before you go messing with anything.
Sometimes a simple hand wheel adjustment to the knife height is all that’s needed.
Suburban tools makes accurate precision straight edges. If you were to hold one op to Lee Valley straight edge you would know what the difference is.
Good Luck

-- Aj

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#7 posted 06-12-2019 11:35 AM



I’ve said this before and will say it again. You should use a precision straight edge to adjust jointers.
The Veritas aluminum one isn’t good enough.
I’ve tune a few jointers first thing to do is get a good idea of the tables. With a short precision straight edge make a drawing. Of the tables highs and lows
Set the out feed to the body of the head then the infeed to the outfeed.
With a new machine be sure it’s a table alignment problem before you go messing with anything.
Sometimes a simple hand wheel adjustment to the knife height is all that’s needed.
Suburban tools makes accurate precision straight edges. If you were to hold one op to Lee Valley straight edge you would know what the difference is.
Good Luck

- Aj2

I have had a tough time dialing in my jointer when I first got it. I bought a 36” precision straight edge but I feel that a 96” or 72” would have been much better. It’s hard to adjust a jointer that is 84” long with a 36” straight edge. The only precision straight edges that I could find in 72” were $800 and the cheapest 96” was $1,200. Any suggestions on where to find a better deal on a long one? I have my jointer dialed in good enough but would love to adjust it better.

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#8 posted 06-12-2019 12:01 PM

Assuming you can’t get it dialed in, you might consider driving to the Grizzly Bellingham showroom, and speaking with Grizzly directly. They are really friendly and willing to help. The only problem is they are only open on weekdays, and Seattle’s awful traffic.

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Samsonite

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#9 posted 06-12-2019 01:59 PM

Ouch, I couldn’t imagine investing that much in a straight edge. It would make adjustments much easier but I couldn’t justify that investment.
I did spend a few extra hours and got to a point where I’m ok with it, not completely satisfied but I’m around 5 thousands off now.
Grizzly did escalate my inquiry and hopefully I can get an engineer from Bellingham on the phone. Currently you can only speak with technical support in Missouri. I’ve been to showroom many times and thought about loading up jointer and driving up to north.
I will be joining some cherry this week and will post my results.

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Aj2

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#10 posted 06-12-2019 06:02 PM

I’ve said this before and will say it again. You should use a precision straight edge to adjust jointers.
The Veritas aluminum one isn’t good enough.
I’ve tune a few jointers first thing to do is get a good idea of the tables. With a short precision straight edge make a drawing. Of the tables highs and lows
Set the out feed to the body of the head then the infeed to the outfeed.
With a new machine be sure it’s a table alignment problem before you go messing with anything.
Sometimes a simple hand wheel adjustment to the knife height is all that’s needed.
Suburban tools makes accurate precision straight edges. If you were to hold one op to Lee Valley straight edge you would know what the difference is.
Good Luck

- Aj2

I have had a tough time dialing in my jointer when I first got it. I bought a 36” precision straight edge but I feel that a 96” or 72” would have been much better. It’s hard to adjust a jointer that is 84” long with a 36” straight edge. The only precision straight edges that I could find in 72” were $800 and the cheapest 96” was $1,200. Any suggestions on where to find a better deal on a long one? I have my jointer dialed in good enough but would love to adjust it better.

- SweetTea


Look at the 4ft precision straight edge from suburban tools. That would definitely get there.

-- Aj

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#11 posted 06-14-2019 10:06 AM

I recently picked up a 96” Empire level from a local tool supplier and they claim that this particular model of Empire level is flat on the edges to something like .0005”. So that might be a cheaper option. I think that I paid $120 including tax.

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Samsonite

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#12 posted 06-14-2019 04:09 PM

So I’m still waiting for response from Grizzly after they told me it would be escalated to higher level technical support but I’m guessing it didn’t get passed along. I miss the days when I could call Bellingham directly.

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#13 posted 06-14-2019 05:37 PM


Look at the 4ft precision straight edge from suburban tools. That would definitely get there.

- Aj2


https://www.subtool.com/st/se_steel_straight_edges.html
Are you suggesting “48 Inch Square Edge Non-Graduated Tool Steel Straight Edge?” Or is there a less expensive option?
That’s a $300 purchase with shipping to me (CT) which is a tough pill to swallow for something that I may only use to set up my jointer. Also, assuming both tools are made to their claimed quality spec, aren’t we talking .001 difference?
veritas = .003 over 50”
suburban tools = .0002 at 48” (.0005 per 12”)

Not trying to start an argument here – I’m sincerely interested if I’m missing something b/c i suspect .003 is already more precise than spec on the infeed table

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Samsonite

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#14 posted 06-14-2019 06:26 PM


Not trying to start an argument here – I m sincerely interested if I m missing something b/c i suspect .003 is already more precise than spec on the infeed table

- avsmusic1

I would imagine .003 is way more precise, I did inquire about specs from Grizzly but nothing is available or listed anywhere on what tolerance to expect.

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Aj2

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#15 posted 06-14-2019 09:12 PM

The Veritas is not precision. I don’t know how to explain it to you guys if you don’t want to believe me that’s fine.
Maybe you’ll be the lucky one that gets a Veritas straight edge that actually straight.
Keep this in mind you’ll never know how straight or square your tools are till you have a accurate reference tool.
I have the 3 or four Veritas Straight edges and they are not precision. I use them but not setting up jointer tables.
Good Luck

-- Aj

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