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05-31-2019 11:08 PM

I don’t know much about band saws and this is my first. Saving room in the budget for a new table saw so went used on Craigslist. Anyway this is a Craftsman 12” I picked up today for $160. I think I overpaid a tad but the KC metro is crap show for used tools. Like a literal photo gallery of crap on CL or FB.


I don’t know why some vertical pics get rotated…sorry


Table has a little surface rust and the insert could used replace but all in all it looks good to me.


New polyurethane tires were put on a year ago along with a new blade. Seller let me make some test cuts and it was cutting an oak 2×2 without issue.

Seller even tossed in a dolly he made for this for free. The casters he used are too big but nice casters I can reuse on something else. I did scratch the paint on the back slightly getting it out of the truck and little pissed at myself for that. This was definitely not a one man job but i did so i guess its a win.


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#1 posted 06-01-2019 01:05 AM

After getting it home and all set up I noticed the blade had a bit of run out on it. Noticed it was a bit loose so went to tighten it up and it popped off mid cut on me. I think the tires are the wrong width. I’m no expert but I think they should sit between the grooves in the wheels which i measured with my caliper to be 11/16 and the tires on it are 13/16 which seems to be causing the blade to ride one side and eventually slip off. I tried for an hour to get everything tuned and this kept happening. I also noticed that once i got the bearings set correctly to ride the blade they both chatter.

This whole week has been a crap shoot so whatever…live and learn. I will be hunting down new tires and bearings i guess. If anyone has experience with this particular model and knows where i can get some parts i would greatly appreciate it.

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#2 posted 06-01-2019 12:22 PM

I don’t think you need new tires…I think you need to learn how to adjust a band saw.
Get the owners manual. The “Old WW Machine” website should have that model.
Find the top wheel adjustment which will allow you to “track” the blade into the center of the tires.
When you have the correct tension and the blade tracks in the center, then you work on the guides.
For that machine, I think a 3/8×3 tooth blade will probably be a good choice…suggest Wood Slicer from Highland WW in Atlanta.

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#3 posted 06-01-2019 02:49 PM

After downloading the manual and messaging a manufacturer of band saw tires I have confirmed the ones I have are the wrong size.

This is how they should be seated on the wheels according to the manufacturer.

Mine will not fit between the grooves on the wheel. They overhang about an 1/8 in covering the outer lip of the wheel and thus creating an angled surface for the blade to sit on. I don’t think there is anyway to get the blade to track properly with this current setup. No matter what I do it wants to ride up that angled surface of the tires.

Zoro – i checked out the Wood Slicer blades but unfortunately I didn’t see them in 91” without doing a special order. I did find a 3/8×3 tpi Timber Wolf blade in the correct size. Reviews seem positive so I might give it a try.

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#4 posted 06-01-2019 03:18 PM

You paid a fair price for that saw. It is a serviceable saw if it is setup correctly. I have a sears 12” that is older than yours but does a good job once I set it up. This You tube video by Alex Snodgrass goes thru how to set up a band saw follow it and it will do a very good job for you. You don’t need the carter products to get it to do a serviceable job cutting for you.
Search on line and download a copy of the owners manual. There is some good info in that also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGbZqWac0jU

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#5 posted 06-02-2019 12:30 AM

Bruce – thanks for that vid. Haven’t finished it yet but already picked up a few things i didn’t know. I should point out I have used a band saw quite heavily in a meat market so I’m familiar with how they work in general. I just haven’t used one for wood working since high school wood shop which took place more years ago than i care to admit. I have found several manuals for this thing and even went so far as to print one out to keep in the shop with the others.

Things I have ordered to tune this up:
- new v-belt
- new polyurethane tires of the correct 3/4 width
- 2 new thrust bearings. Not sure how to change these but look like skateboard bearings so assuming the same punch will work
- New 3/16” cool blocks guide pins
- New 3/8×3 tpi timber wolf blade

I also found a fence attachment that fits a different model Craftsman but it has an identical table to mine so bidding on it as well. If I get the fence I may order the 1/2×2/3 tpi timber wolf blade to do some light resaw work

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#6 posted 06-03-2019 03:20 PM

Spent a little time cleaning up the cast iron while I wait for parts.

Steps taken to remove rust and make this super smooth:
- Go over entire surface with paint scraper in the direction of the milling marks to reduce scratches
- Clean with degreaser. I used Purple Power but have also used Zep Purple in the past
- Sand with 220 using 1/4 sheet sander. I was very careful not to put much pressure on the sander and let the paper do the work.
- Next I hand sanded any low spots around the edges of the table
- Clean it again
- Came back with 320 grit on the 1/4 sheet sander
- Guess what…clean it again
- Finally I waxed it. I was out of Johnsons Paste Wax so I used MinWax finishing wax

All the sanding steps were done going in the direction of the milling marks to reduce any scratch marks. The pic really doesn’t do it justice. This thing is smooth and shiny.

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