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05-31-2019 04:10 AM

Topic tags/keywords: security solid core entry patio

Finally… I get to include my woodworking with my recent home defensive projects. Namely, entry doors. I have the typical tract home construction main front entry door that I think a 8 year old could kick through. Looking to beef that sucker up by constructing my own front door. I did search through the forums and projects first but I guess door projects are few & far between. I did learn white oak is preferred. Should be a fun project.
However, I have a typical glass sliding door out to my backyard. Since I was little, I’ve always hated how boring and ugly they look. Never really saw a need for them other than to keep getting dirty and rain spots. I would like to convert to a single solid core door or even french door.
Anyone recommend projects that did not show up in my LJ search, or books or such? I know there are door, and there are doors. I’m mainly seeking advice/recommendations for beefy doors that are more troublesome to kicking in for Breaking & Entering or home invasion purposes (I could look into steel doors..but I think a solid core door would hold up better and look better…and would make a great learning project).

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"


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#1 posted 05-31-2019 04:43 AM

As far as Security, the frame will be another huge factor, any doors that I have “gone” trough with purpose the jam splits before the actual door. Came across a local guy who builds custom entry doors and his wood of choice is Sapele, but had some amazing doors in Maple and Oak. All my interior doors are Maple and exterior are Fiberglass because of the low temps here in the great white north.

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#2 posted 05-31-2019 04:47 AM

Andre…I’ve come across comments that fiberglass entry doors are really nice. Do you think your fiberglass door would hold up to a home break in, as compared to a solid core door?
(yes..also read Sapele is #1 choice for doors and white oak comes in a close 2nd).

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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#3 posted 05-31-2019 04:58 AM

Security wise I would rate Steel # 1 then Fiberglass over any standard thickness wood door. Can always go the Spanish/Mexican style 4” thick hand carved wood door with wrought iron accents if ya want a secure wood door?
Proportional then you could go with 1/2” lag bolts to fasten the Jam frame!

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#4 posted 05-31-2019 05:00 AM

You would be the first person that I had chance to ask :)
Steel too spendy. Fiberglass reasonable. Ok… maybe I’ll look into fiberglass door since here in northern NV, we do have wild varying temps with rain/snow.
(purchase… not diy as I’ve never dabbled in fiberglass)

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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#5 posted 05-31-2019 05:03 AM

I don’t worry to much about break ins, the 357mag and 9mm Ruger usually prevent any locals? Plus the take a look at my killer watch dog, better hope you can still run after he get a hold of you because it is actually the Wife you should be scared of!

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#6 posted 05-31-2019 05:10 AM

looking into a moss berg shotgun as my first home weapon. that should be fun :)
2 dogs in my future for sure.
no wife as of yet.
so… some $$$ at home security should be beneficial

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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#7 posted 05-31-2019 05:14 AM

I would make it more for looks personally and get a Ring doorbell. as the front door isn’t likely to get kicked in. Unless of course ALL of the windows are already barred, and the door frames have been steel reinforced with 3” lag bolts. And the crooks really want to get into your house. Which ironically a lot of times is to steal guns if they know they are inside.

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#8 posted 05-31-2019 05:16 AM

no Ring stuff for me. No likey Ring employees looking over my streams as they wish :)

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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#9 posted 05-31-2019 05:25 AM



no Ring stuff for me. No likey Ring employees looking over my streams as they wish :)

- Holbs

Where I live they are almost a must. More due to package thieves than thefts though. Personally i don’t care if somebody else can see who is at my door. I wouldn’t buy the inside ones though for sure. You just don’t want to be “the one” house without one if every other house has them.

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#10 posted 05-31-2019 12:49 PM

I built my own front door, its about 2.5 inches thick, based on a chunk of marine plywood, with alder wood over lay on both sides, made the jamb out of 8/4 knotty alder. biggest problem with any door is the jamb, i made latch side a double laminate, put a piece of .25 steel between two pcs. of alder to sandwich the steel in for the latches. door has a single dead bolt, (top end quality) ball catches top and bottom, and rolls on a rickson pivot (spelling) a slight breeze will move it. has a type of speak easy window in it, with steel rods for show. Its now about 7 years old and does very well, and looks very good. making the hole thru the steel was a chore but i managed with drilling holes then using dremel to square up for latch plate. as for it being able to be kicked in, gonna take a line backer to get it done.
along with the door is the security system, cameras, and just recently the old gal had one of the boys put in a ring door bell, they are ok, but the delay of recording is odd. do like having it when not home and can review packages being delivered.
Oh yeah, used a 2x red oak for a threshold, nothing about it would i change, again as noted only issue is latch side, to keep it stable thru a series of kicks, no wood can hold up without help from some steel. jmo though
Rj in az

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#11 posted 05-31-2019 01:16 PM

Hinges, strike plates, and the door jambs are the weak points in most exterior doors. Beef those up and get a better deadbolt and you should be all set.

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#12 posted 05-31-2019 01:18 PM

I used white oak for threshold because it doesn’t rot like red oak. I am in northern Illinois.

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#13 posted 05-31-2019 01:24 PM



Hinges, strike plates, and the door jambs are the weak points in most exterior doors. Beef those up and get a better deadbolt and you should be all set.

- Steve


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#14 posted 05-31-2019 04:49 PM

One of the easiest and cheapest upgrade is to replace door jams striker plate screws with quality 3” to 4” screws.

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#15 posted 05-31-2019 11:13 PM


One of the easiest and cheapest upgrade is to replace door jams striker plate screws with quality 3” to 4” screws.

- Andre


yep, already in progress to purchase reinforced strike plate. Looked at that Door Armor or something for $70 that plates the entire door frame but… that has a high possibility of screwing up the door alignment causing draft gaps.
I may revisit the idea of doing a front entry door and patio door conversion project, but that will be later. I’ll seriously looking into fiberglass door for time being. Thankx for that suggestion alternative.

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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