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05-10-2019 08:31 PM

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I need a new jigsaw, and the Internets says that model ^ is the best.

Anyone have any opinions or other suggestions?

The most important thing to me is how easy it is to follow the cut line – although I’d like it to make a clean cut as well, of course.

The only thing that makes me reticent is that there are so many refurbished ones on the market. Did they all go back, or is that normal for all tools?


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#1 posted 05-10-2019 08:44 PM

I’ve had that model (barrel grip) for about 6 years now and no problems…though a jigsaw admittingly doesn’t get used as often as many other other tools. So I guess I don’t know why there are so many refurbs, actually I didn’t realize that there were a lot of them out there. But it is a very nice jigsaw, though the refurb question is a good one. Maybe they are having a lot of problems.

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#2 posted 05-10-2019 11:43 PM

It’s probably okay, but you do have to wonder.

Thanks.

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#3 posted 05-11-2019 05:21 PM

I think Bosch was having problems with their electronic models. I bought a refub Bosch impact driver and the electronic circuit quit on me. I bought another refub and so far, it is still working. I also have a Hitachi router with electronic speed control that quit . The electronic speed control stopped working.

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#4 posted 05-11-2019 06:07 PM

Electronic speed control? I always figured they were just variable resistors, but maybe the voltage regulation is more sophisticated than that.

Yet another item on a long list of things I’ve never stopped to think about!

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#5 posted 05-12-2019 04:36 AM

I have a Bosch and like it—but the old wisdom on all jigsaws is that they are the saw that will do everything—but nothing well. Any tool that is designed to cut curves will have a hell of a time cutting a straight line. The blades like to wander when you move from harder to softer grain in the cut. Plus the blades flex laterally, which compounds the problem.

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#6 posted 05-12-2019 10:07 PM

Well, the piece I need to cut for the desk I’m making would be a PITA to do on my bandsaw, because it’s too big.

And my old Black & Decker jigsaw isn’t really strong enough to cut through 3/4” oak.

So…

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#7 posted 05-16-2019 03:32 AM

If there’s a lot of referbs avoid it like the plague.
Most jigsaws are hard to keep on the line because they vibrate so much due to poor engineering.
I’ve owned all the major brands and nothing comes close to the Festool, it’s very smooth. It cuts straight and square better than any other brand. I’ve used it to cut decorative rafter tails on 3×10 yellow pine with excellent results.

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#8 posted 05-16-2019 04:25 AM

Unfortunately that’s a mite too rich for me. Maybe if I did this full-time, rather than a side-side business, but for the amount I’ll use it it just doesn’t pay.

If Izzy Swan can work with garden-variety tools, there’s no reason I can’t. :)

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#9 posted 05-18-2019 11:37 PM

I looked at that saw but wasn’t really happy with it. Like bandsaws, jigsaws are highly dependent on the blade you use as well, and its worth getting a decent blade if you need/want good results. I ended up going a JS572EK – its a bit more expensive, but based on my reading had higher reliability and quality of cut compared to the 470. I would say below the festool that Bosch has the longest history in making jigsaws (given that the concept originates from them) and has made some outstanding ones.

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#10 posted 05-19-2019 12:38 AM

Thanks for the feedback, jta.

I’m still hoping my very cheap Black & Decker jigsaw with a fresh blade will get me through this project. Or maybe I’ll give it a try on the bandsaw even though the pieces are pretty unwieldy for it.

Actually, the area that jigs might even be easier on my scroll saw!

This is the first time I’ve worked with big 4/4 red oak boards. I’m used to Douglas fir and plywood.

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#11 posted 05-19-2019 04:21 PM

I’ve got a cheaper (older?) version of a Bosch jigsaw I bought at Lowes for $30 when they sold off an old display model It is not saying much because my older saws were crappy but it is the best jigsaw I’ve ever used. What I found is that using the right blade makes a huge difference so just using your current one with the right blade might be good enough for a one-off use. Bosch has a complete line of blades for different purposes so make sure that you look for one designed for hardwood and for the thickness you are cutting.

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#12 posted 05-19-2019 05:13 PM

Refurbs probably went back due to a failure of the tool, like a bad switch, or a part breaking. No tool is perfect out of the factory. There are good and bad tools from every manufacturer. The more expensive tools usually have the least failures, but there are always exceptions. My take is: “you pays your money and takes your chances”. I have had good luck with HF tools and also a lot of bad luck and that extends to well known tools as well. I take good care of all my tools, don’t abuse them, so if they fail, it’s because the tool is bad, not me.

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#13 posted 05-19-2019 05:34 PM

The Bosch 1587AVS is the best jigsaw ever made.

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#14 posted 05-19-2019 08:40 PM

MrRon:

There are good and bad tools from every manufacturer

No question, and there are a million things that can go wrong in manufacturing any product. But when you see a large inventory of refurbs…

bigblockyeti:


The Bosch 1587AVS is the best jigsaw ever made.

- bigblockyeti

What makes it better than the current ones, if I may ask?

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#15 posted 05-19-2019 08:53 PM


The Bosch 1587AVS is the best jigsaw ever made.

- bigblockyeti

This is often echoed. However if you buy a refurb from CPO , you may differ in that opinion. I have had the barrel grip for a long time, and like it, but sometimes I want a handle. I’m not sure why, but I bought the handled model being talked about here from CPO. What I got was a POS, someone had used a LOT, and then put it into the box, and poured some type of epoxy on everything, and returned it. I was sent exactly as it had been return, used, abused, and (*&^^ up. CPO wouldn’t do anything for me. So my commentary isn’t about the tool, it’s CPO. Will be a cold day down under when they see any more of my hard earned $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

They are not rated anymore by the BBB. They used to be. This was some time ago, and they were an F. Unfortunately I didn’t think to check this before getting screwed. Not being rated, and having as many transactions as they do is saying, don’t call us unless you are happy. BBB can’t make them change, just report either if they are good or bad. Plenty of tool sellers are A+ on BBB. Check though because a lot of them aren’t.

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