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Forum topic by CaptainKlutz posted 05-10-2019 08:01 AM 5040 views 0 times favorited 76 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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CaptainKlutz

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05-10-2019 08:01 AM

Topic tags/keywords: humor bandsaw lathe planer scroll saw drill press miter saw router jointer tablesaw

Public Service Announcement for those planning to buy new power tools:

As of today, Friday May 10th, Us government has increased tariffs on Chinese goods from 10% to 25%. Check you favorite news source for more information.

Why do we care about this as wood workers?

All those China made power tools now cost 15% more to import into US starting today.
All the OEM such as; Laguna, Powermatic, Grizzly, etc; have already given us price increases on Chinese made tools earlier when 10% tarffs were created. Those same tools are now 15% more expensive to them. :(

I only post this note for those planning on buying new tools:
IF you were planning on buying a new tool made in China, suggest you go buy it quickly before increased tariffs are applied on the next shipment to your favorite supplier. It only took the OEM about a month to add tariff surcharges last time this happened.

PS – Just wanted to post a warning of possible future price increases. Have no interest in starting a discussion if this is good/bad, or how long it may last. We all hope the trade issues will be resolved quickly, and our tool prices can be lowered to past levels. One can certainly avoid these price increases if you buy power tools made in other countries.

PPS – There are existing threads that discuss tariffs last time they were applied:
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/279609
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/281073
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/285289

Have a great day, and better tomorrow as you make saw dust!

Admin: If I put this is wrong forum, move, delete, etc as necessary.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!


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#1 posted 05-10-2019 07:14 PM

I think the 25% tariff will result in China lowering further their quality in order to stay competitive. Even products from countries other than China may increase in price. Other countries also buy products from China, rebrand them and sell them to us.

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Richard Lee

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#2 posted 05-10-2019 09:29 PM

A good reason to get back to making our own tools again , there were some great tools built in N.A. at one time.

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sgcz75b

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#3 posted 05-10-2019 09:38 PM


there were some great tools built in N.A. at one time.

- Richard Lee


That’s true. Of course, that was before the unions ruined quality and pride in workmanship.

-- Remember - You're not a "real" woodworker unless you do exactly as another woodworker says you must do. It's called "The True Woodworker Fallacy."

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SMP

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#4 posted 05-10-2019 10:44 PM

The cost will get passed to us, but The worst part is suppliers will probably tack on an upcharge, and retailers will add another upcharge, so us the consumers will probably pay even more than the increase. I‘m guessing they will also find another reason to increase prices of stuff not made in china.

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becikeja

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#5 posted 05-10-2019 11:36 PM

I will gladly pay if it means returning to US manufacturing. This is my stance. But I was hit with a hard question today on this. With unemployment at such low levels where are the workers going to come from? Simple more factory automation. Ok now where are the technicians to install and service this automation? Good question….....

-- Don't outsmart your common sense

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ruger

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#6 posted 05-10-2019 11:58 PM

I spent 40 years turning wrenches in a ford dealership. just recently learned Cummins diesel blocks are cast in china. cummins has invested 250 million in production plants there. they arn’t coming back.

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#7 posted 05-11-2019 12:01 AM

Don’t start badmouthing unions. Unions exist because employers wanted all for themselves, which is why many companies left the USA. 8 hour day? Thank a union. 40 hour week? Thank a union. Pension and healthcare? Thank a union. It is a proven fact that a union workplace is safer, and the product quality is better. Union members have great pride in the quality of the product they manufacture. Unions fight to keep jobs of all kinds HERE! And union jobs have higher wages which allow many the luxury of being a woodworker, which is not a cheap hobby. Unions fight against free trade. The tarriffs will also hurt farmers, car buyers, tv buyers, on and on. And the saddest part is the tarriffs won’t bring back tool or any other manufacturing that has left. I avoid political discussion here, but I didn’t start it.

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#8 posted 05-11-2019 12:10 AM

All I see from unions is 10 guys sitting in lawn chairs, holding signs, with an inflatable rat, out in front of honest, hard working family businesses who pay their guys well enough to keep the unions from trying to tell them how to run their business. The unions WERE a great part of American workforce progression, but that time has come and gone, and all that is left is their never ending bullying of small family businesses. FACT.

-- Jeff Heath

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ibewjon

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#9 posted 05-11-2019 12:27 AM

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. End of discussion.

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Carlos510

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#10 posted 05-11-2019 12:30 AM

I here you ruger, I believe those engine blocks were finished in a plant in southern Ontario, when they moved to China that plant was shut down and 300 jobs lost. China in my mind is just a different flavor of Russia, what is North America doing transferring it’s hard earned wealth to a country who steals our developments and will one day use those developments and wealth against us.

It proves to me that big business and the 1% have lost their morals and loyalties long time ago. Their main concern is max. profits for the few, irregardless off where they come from.

Maybe getting a little to off topic and controversial here.

-- "If time is money, then I need a loan" , http://www.hobbyworkshopprojects.blogspot.com/

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#11 posted 05-11-2019 12:38 AM

Unions can kiss my ass!

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sgcz75b

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#12 posted 05-11-2019 01:09 AM

I buy Grizzly BECAUSE the products aren’t made by unions.

If a union made a Grizzly bandsaw, it would cost four times as much, the wheels would fall off the first time it ran, the tolerances would be measured in feet – not millimeters, it would be thrown off the truck by union drivers (if not stolen outright), and smell of cheap booze, nasty cigars, and pension-fund corruption.

Though I always look for the union label, and when I see it, I buy something else.

-- Remember - You're not a "real" woodworker unless you do exactly as another woodworker says you must do. It's called "The True Woodworker Fallacy."

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Rich

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#13 posted 05-11-2019 01:13 AM

Reminds me of the UAW member, UMWA member and Teamster who were arguing about whose dog was the smartest.

The UAW member said watch this. His dog went to the fridge, grabbed a beer and popped it open setting it in front of his owner.

The UMWA member said oh yeah watch this. His dog went to the fridge and grabbed a steak and set it in front of the UMWA guy without even getting teeth marks in it.

The Teamster simply nodded to his dog, who proceeded to drink the beer, eat the steak and screw the other two dogs, claiming he hurt his back in the process, and went on disability.

-- Knowledge is not skill. Knowledge plus ten thousand times is skill. -- Shinichi Suzuki

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#14 posted 05-11-2019 01:45 AM

+100 ibewjon if these guys want to ignore all the benefits that unions have brought them they are welcome to. Perhaps they’d feel differently if their children still had to work 16 hour days.

Are they perfect, of course not, but we are a hell of a lot better off with them than without them.

-- No craft is very far from the line beyond which is magic. -- Lord Dunsany — Instagram @grailwoodworks

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Carlos510

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#15 posted 05-11-2019 01:53 AM

hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…..........Thats rich, Rich

I can make a social comparison that takes all the humor out of it.

The first is the obedient majority.
The second is the middle talented and gifted.
And the third is the 1% who collect every penny of profit they can squeeze from the other two and then hide their profits – no profit therefore, no taxes paid.

-- "If time is money, then I need a loan" , http://www.hobbyworkshopprojects.blogspot.com/

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