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Forum topic by Patrickgeddes14 posted 05-04-2019 09:42 PM 436 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-04-2019 09:42 PM

What finishing oil, out ohf the most popular typical ones, creates a shade that’s quite darker than the wood?


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#1 posted 05-04-2019 10:02 PM

I’m kind of unclear what you mean. Are you looking for a natural oil that darkens over time? Or an oil finish that has pigment in it already? Or an oil that has additives that speed up darkening?

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#2 posted 05-04-2019 10:09 PM

I need something that will darken a piece of yellow pine more than blo would, whatever wipe on solution fits that criteria would be what I’m looking for

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#3 posted 05-04-2019 10:21 PM

Have you considered watco danish oil? it comes in a whole bunch of different colours.
It is available locally here in central TX, and you can order it online. I have been very pleased with the results, and it is just a wipe on wipe off finish, so super easy to apply.
Just a thought,
Christian

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#4 posted 05-05-2019 02:18 PM

I’m a watco fan (mainly due to its availability).
The color differences on hard, non absorptive woods like WO is subtle between the “natural” and the medium or dark walnut that I use mostly, but it is there. Pine is very absorptive, but often the winter growth can be quite dense and not absorb much at all. This means that using a pigmented product may produce more blotchyness as you try to go darker. Situations like these are where dyes really shine.
You can also stick with an unpigmented oil and add toners into the (clear) top finish to get a darker look that is evenly tinted.

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#5 posted 05-08-2019 12:24 PM

Watco has a lot of different colors but those are achieved using pigments. I much prefer using dyes. I use WD Lockwood oil based dyes, which will mix with any oil based finishes – blo, tung, poly, etc. I mostly just use poly with dye added to get the color I want. Quite a few projects Ive posted on LJs have this finish.

I thin the poly to a wiping varnish and apply the first 2 coats like danish or blo, flood on, keep wet for 10 min, wipe off. Depends on the desired final finish what the next steps are.

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#6 posted 05-08-2019 01:49 PM

Patrick – I have very rarely used any kind of dye for wood in the past.
but, I have recently began to study it a little. FWW has an article that
you may find useful in some of your projects. (it is in the PDF format).
https://www.finewoodworking.com/FWNPDFfree/011190044.pdf
it is definitely worth the read.

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#7 posted 05-08-2019 03:29 PM



I need something that will darken a piece of yellow pine more than blo would, whatever wipe on solution fits that criteria would be what I m looking for

- Patrickgeddes14


I have found that amber shellac works quite well for that. Always experiment on scraps before you commit.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#8 posted 05-08-2019 06:51 PM

Thanks John and Bondogaposis,
I’ve been wondering about this subject too.
Jon

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#9 posted 05-09-2019 02:48 AM

Dye was mentioned, and there you need specific. If you are using an oil finish, you’ll need a dye that is soluble in oil. Joel at Tool for Working Wood, carries the Lockwood brand and they have specific dyes for what you are dissolving it in. I believe other brands do as well. Joel likes the Osmo oil finishes, and I have seen good reviews here as well. Just stay oil to oil, and water to water, and it will work, no matter the brands used..

Here are the oil soluble dyes he carries. The beauty of dyes is you can get a large pallet simply based on the dye colors, or play create a color by adding more or less, either dye or liquid. Plus you can mix as many as you need to make the color of your choice, if the stock offerings don’t cover what you are looking for.

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#10 posted 05-09-2019 03:39 AM


I need something that will darken a piece of yellow pine more than blo would, whatever wipe on solution fits that criteria would be what I m looking for

- Patrickgeddes14

I have found that amber shellac works quite well for that. Always experiment on scraps before you commit.

- bondogaposis

To test for the OP i did a coat of BLO and 2 coats of medium walnut danish oil on a scrap of yellow pine and there is hardly any difference in color. 3 coats of garnet shellac is actually better IMO. Shellac (dewaxed)will also seal dye for most topcoats as well.

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#11 posted 05-13-2019 04:56 PM

Look into rubio, they have a lot of different color options. Odie’s oil also makes a dark oil that

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