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Forum topic by BalsaWood posted 04-25-2019 08:21 PM 1071 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BalsaWood

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04-25-2019 08:21 PM

Looking through the parts diagrams, it doesn’t look like there is much of a difference between the 15” four post planers. Jet, Powermatic, Grizzly, Baileigh, Oliver, etc… all look like the same planer but with a different paint job. I’m trying to justify getting a Jet or Powermatic but they are way higher priced than Grizzly and can’t see a reason to spend more on them except for the longer warranty. The only two exceptions were the Jet JWP-15DX and the Grizzly G1021Z which are both made in Taiwan and have roller tables instead. All the other planers are made in China.

Anyone else know anything more about these types of planers? Why is there such a large cost difference between some of these.


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Richard Lee

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#1 posted 04-25-2019 09:41 PM

I would chose Taiwanese before Chinese made.
And the reason they look the same is they probably are, unless ,made in Taiwan I think the quality is better.

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#2 posted 04-25-2019 10:20 PM

No surprises there!

Check this out and see if you can guess the brand, again the only difference I could find was the dust port.

I have never tried to work balsa wood is it OK?

-- Regards Rob

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#3 posted 04-25-2019 10:33 PM

LOL Sorry to laugh but, BTDTGTTS

Yes, they are all clones of each other.
If you go back far enough, find they are clones of the original US made Delta RC-33 13” four post planer produced long from before Asia turned into the wood working equipment juggernaut it is today.

It is not until you really dig into detailed specifications and/or parts lists that you can see the subtle differences between each brand. Having rebuilt 3 different brands of abused/abandoned 15” planers, and chasing parts is how I figured out some the differentiation.

Suggest you search forums for ‘15” planer’ to learn more. Myself and others have posted on differences between 4 post planers. TBH – there is to much to summarize it again. Here are a couple of threads on my watch list that give you start:
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/303525
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/47038
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/15228
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/260537
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/260417

Answer to your question is easy to find it you look:
https://www.lumberjocks.com/search_results?cx=017914489645407774653%3Agwwk-zif3wk&cof=FORID%3A9&safe=high&q=15%22+planer

Best Luck with purchase decision!

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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Aj2

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#4 posted 04-25-2019 10:33 PM

What about the parts you cannot see. The bearings the motor pulleys belts.
For weekend woodworkers it probably doesn’t matter right.

-- Aj

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BalsaWood

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#5 posted 04-25-2019 10:37 PM


I have never tried to work balsa wood is it OK?

- robscastle

I only used it a couple of time and it is really soft. Cutting it with a knife was easier than using a saw. It is considered a hardwood though.

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#6 posted 04-26-2019 03:21 AM

Delta designed a winner way back went, is why everyone is selling a copy of that model, and have been for a long time. Long time age before Delta moved to Taiwan FWW ran an article about how to tell the difference between the Delta models and the Asian imports, can’t remember which issue it was in now. The article talked about things like checking the casting parting lines that were poorly cleaned up and checking corners and angles for roughness indicating that casting sand had not been cleaned properly and painted over, which also indicated they probably did not get aged properly either.

Nowadays similar comparisons can be made with Taiwan machines and some (not all) mainland machines. These are usually the bottom of the barrel models that the deep discounters carry. In some cases parts may look the same but the fit may not be correct across all models.

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CaptainKlutz

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#7 posted 04-26-2019 04:40 AM

FYI

Missed a past post about planer mfg sources:
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/303051
https://www.lumberjocks.com/replies/5184080

FWIW – Realized a list of various wood working planer mfg was not in a single post. So here is list of bookmark’s I have collected (in random order):

http://www.geetech.com.tw/index.php/en/
(Chiu Ting Machinery Co has facilities in Taiwan/China, OEM for most everybody at various times)
http://www.huibangmc.com/
http://www.sanhemc.com.cn/
http://www.zicar.net/products.html (Jinan Jaya International)
http://www.chansenmachinery.com/
http://www.harveymachinery.com/ (OEM for Laguna, Powermatic; owns Bridge City Tools now)
http://www.zqmachinery.com/ (Weihai Zhongqiao Machinery)

While it may look thorough, know this list is not complete. There are several more small companies that produce tools/parts as loosely knit regional group(s) under the direction of Trading Companies. The Trading Companies provide design support, quality audit, and overseas sourcing/shipping management for smaller companies that don’t have resources to enable company personal living in foreign country to ensure quality products.

Cheers!

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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BalsaWood

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#8 posted 04-26-2019 06:12 AM



FYI

Missed a past post about planer mfg sources:
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/303051
https://www.lumberjocks.com/replies/5184080

FWIW – Realized a list of various wood working planer mfg was not in a single post. So here is list of bookmark s I have collected (in random order):

http://www.geetech.com.tw/index.php/en/
(Chiu Ting Machinery Co has facilities in Taiwan/China, OEM for most everybody at various times)
http://www.huibangmc.com/
http://www.sanhemc.com.cn/
http://www.zicar.net/products.html (Jinan Jaya International)
http://www.chansenmachinery.com/
http://www.harveymachinery.com/ (OEM for Laguna, Powermatic; owns Bridge City Tools now)
http://www.zqmachinery.com/ (Weihai Zhongqiao Machinery)

While it may look thorough, know this list is not complete. There are several more small companies that produce tools/parts as loosely knit regional group(s) under the direction of Trading Companies. The Trading Companies provide design support, quality audit, and overseas sourcing/shipping management for smaller companies that don t have resources to enable company personal living in foreign country to ensure quality products.

Cheers!

- CaptainKlutz

Thats good info. I saw the Geetch PDF on their planer:
http://www.geetech.com.tw/images/product/MINIMIZED%20SNIPE%20PLANER%20SERIES.pdf

Looks like what most brands use. So I’m wondering if Jet and Powermatic have better QC and possibly parts or is their higher price based on their name.

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therealSteveN

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#9 posted 04-26-2019 11:41 AM

It’s all about the paint. That baby poop looking yaller is really expensive. Evidently so is that not quite White.

-- Think safe, be safe

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CaptainKlutz

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#10 posted 04-29-2019 07:45 PM

Speaking of baby goop colors, check out the OEM machines produced by CKM:
http://www.ckmtw.com.tw/e_about.htm

Had that one filed under jointers, not planers.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#11 posted 04-29-2019 09:21 PM

Pardon my ignorance…. ” BTDTGTTS”?

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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Underdog

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#12 posted 04-29-2019 09:27 PM


Pardon my ignorance…. ” BTDTGTTS”?

- MSquared


Been There Done That, Got the T Shirt.

-- Jim, Georgia, USA

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MSquared

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#13 posted 04-29-2019 09:43 PM

Haaaa!!! I think I knew that ….’Maybe’ ..... Way back in my addled brain… ;/

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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#14 posted 04-29-2019 11:39 PM

Ignorance excused Marty … Isnt there a Prison on Long Island?

-- Regards Rob

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MSquared

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#15 posted 04-29-2019 11:53 PM

I don’t think I’ve seen any T-Shirts from them out in the general population, Rob. Probably just not all that fashionable! ;)

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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