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anneb3

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04-25-2019 05:40 PM

A long time ago I made serving trays using 3/4 inch Baltic birch. They came out just fine with variegated shading on the front and edges showing the different plys and finished using poly. Now it is time to make some more,

A net search shows all sorts of items but none constructing a flat serving tray. And there seems to be different
to be different grades of the ply. Brother bought some from box store but it doesn’t seem to turn as well as the stuff I used years ago. Any one ever made these trays may be 15 inches by 3/4.


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#1 posted 04-25-2019 07:09 PM

There is a BIG difference between actual baltic birch plywood from a real hardwood store or Rockler, and the “birch” plywood you find at big box stores. Do you have a real lumber yard or rockler near you?

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#2 posted 04-25-2019 07:24 PM


There is a BIG difference between actual baltic birch plywood from a real hardwood store or Rockler, and the “birch” plywood you find at big box stores. Do you have a real lumber yard or rockler near you?

- SMP


^^^ Yep. The birch plywood stocked at the big box stores is a thin veneer (layer) of birch over who knows what sort of core ply. True BB plywood has all layers the same thickness, with very little (if any) voids in the inner layers.

Get to either a real lumber yard that sells BB plywood, or pickup small sheets at Rockler, Woodcraft, et al….

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#3 posted 04-25-2019 07:32 PM

True Baltic Birch ply comes in 5’ x 5’ sheets (metric) The box stuff comes in 4’ x 8’ sheets and comes usually from China; two totally different materials.

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#4 posted 04-25-2019 07:45 PM

No Rocklers but we do have a Woodworkers Supply. and ofcorse on the Net.
Thanks for the replies

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#5 posted 04-25-2019 08:08 PM

+1


True Baltic Birch ply comes in 5 x 5 sheets (metric) The box stuff comes in 4 x 8 sheets and comes usually from China; two totally different materials.

- MrRon


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#6 posted 04-25-2019 08:13 PM


No Rocklers but we do have a Woodworkers Supply. and ofcorse on the Net.
Thanks for the replies

- anneb3

The one problem with net is most places won’t ship full sheets. You can get smaller pieces, which are probably fine for your trays, but you usually pay more that way in the long run.

Also, the local lumberyard near me now carries 4×8 sheets but I haven’t purchased any. I guess they realize the 4×8 is more of a US standard.

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#7 posted 04-25-2019 08:30 PM

I have been able to have it ordered and delivered to my Lowes by one of their distributors. I think the distributor was in Indy.

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#8 posted 04-25-2019 09:15 PM

Appleply is available in imperial sizes and is even better than BB, IMO. Here’s a blurb about it.

Description. ApplePly® is premium quality, hardwood plywood. Valued for its virtually solid hardwood core and the attractive edge appearance of thin, uniform innerplies, ApplePly has won a following from architects and architectural woodworkers, furniture and fixture designers, case good manufacturers and professional and amateur woodworkers alike.

Here’s a picture.

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#9 posted 04-25-2019 10:54 PM

You can get 4×8 baltic birch as well as 5×5.
The difference between baltic birch, is that all the layers are birch, so it’s hardwood all the way through.

You can order 4×8 sheets of baltic birch from Menards, if you have one near you.

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#10 posted 04-26-2019 12:32 AM


You can get 4×8 baltic birch as well as 5×5.

- Ger21

This is true. Saying it’s only 5×5 is mistaken. We have a local distributor who sells both, as well as plywoods with various cores. They also offer choices on the veneer such as flat sawn, rotary etc.

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#11 posted 04-26-2019 01:18 AM

We have a cabinet supply house nearby that sell is for $22 for a 5×5 sheet of 1/2 inch. They carry 3/4 as well. See if you have a cabinet supply house nearby.

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#12 posted 04-26-2019 06:17 AM

I get mine from lljohnsons Workbench in Charlotte Michigan or South Bend Indiana. 1/2” Baltic Birch is $26 and 3/4” is $38 they are 5×5 sheets and high quality.

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#13 posted 04-26-2019 10:47 AM

It was already stated but if you have a Menards near you, buy your BB ply there. It is 4×8’ sheets. At least in my area they have the best in quality and price. Much better than the over handled crap I have gotten from specialty lumber places, including the supposed wonderful Paxtons in Cinci. I would like to see if those stating never to buy BB ply form a big box store actually have better. I really doubt it. The Menards stock I have gotten is always primo stock.

They also sell ARAUCOPLY which is Radiata Pine plywood. The Radiata Pine is the grown pine where there is no low growth, so no knots. It is the absolute primo looking pine product sold at most BORGs for a bit more $$$ than the knotty, twisty stuff, unfortunately I only find it in 1x sizes.

On special order you can also get Appleply, and cheaper than any other source I have where it need not be shipped to me. I have seen it just cheaper online, but shipping almost doubled the price.

I have always special ordered my plywood from Menards, and had it delivered. This adds about 50 bux to my bill, but I usually but 50 sheets as a minimum. You can however buy by the sheet. I have never done that, and am not sure how it would be handled before you got it. Most of the reason I get mine special order, and shipped directly to me is it’s my belief much of the dings, and damage given to plywood is in the store itself, and yes this applies to the special poop places too. My load from Menards always comes to me divided by type, and then thickness, and is sandwiched between at least 2 pieces of shelf plywood, sometimes each type of ply is in it’s own sandwhich, so when I get it, it’s minty fresh looking. Probably near 1500 sheets over the last 10 years or so, and so far only one ding, and that was replaced with a fresh sheet.

By the time I tally, even with the delivery charge, I’m still cheaper by some, than if I bought from a specialty hardwood place.

Probably the place nearby me that has BB worth looking at is still more than I pay for 4×8 sheets at Menard when you consider the extra size, and it is on and off as to how it looks. If some looney buyer is throwing it around looking for “his sheet” it will be a mess, if it’s new, it is ok, but certainly not some fabled plywood from heaven, as some would have you believe a real hardwood supplier can get you. It’s here at CR Muterspaw

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#14 posted 04-26-2019 02:47 PM

Thanks to all you replyers I now know enough to go. shopping. Lowes-a local big box store seems to sell applewood, so will venture over there and take a look. Maybe they will even cut it. A 4 by 8 is a little beyond my ability so even if I have to pay for cutting, it will be worth it.

Acording to the moning paper Lowes is shutting down a bunch of stores so maybe stuff will be on sale
If not there, will try on line, but shipping may boost the cost.

Thanks again

Anne

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#15 posted 04-26-2019 04:30 PM

I second the Araucoply and the appleply. Appleply may not be available everywhere.

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