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dbw

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04-20-2019 09:23 PM

Topic tags/keywords: jointer laguna powermatic

I am looking to buy a floor standing jointer. I have it narrowed down to Laguna 6”/8” Wedgebed with Shear Tec II and Powermatic 54HH/60HH. It appears the Laguna has more inserts but the PM has longer beds. The Laguna has a built-in mobile base. I typically buy boards which are 4 +/- feet in length. How much of a big deal is having longer beds? How important is the insert count?

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#1 posted 04-20-2019 09:45 PM

I think the importance of very long jointer beds has been exaggerated. I almost never flatten and plane an 8 foot or longer board. I cut the board to the approximate length it needs to be and then plane it flat. You lose much less thickness that way if you are trying to remove bowing or cupping and the material is easier to handle. I have a jointer/planer combination machine with a relatively short bed and I have never wished for a longer bed.

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#2 posted 04-21-2019 12:35 PM

Given you don’t use long stock, I’d get the laguna – especially given it’s cheaper. Woodcraft (and probably others) are still running a 10% off this month too

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#3 posted 04-21-2019 12:51 PM



I think the importance of very long jointer beds has been exaggerated. I almost never flatten and plane an 8 foot or longer board. I cut the board to the approximate length it needs to be and then plane it flat. You lose much less thickness that way if you are trying to remove bowing or cupping and the material is easier to handle. I have a jointer/planer combination machine with a relatively short bed and I have never wished for a longer bed.

- ArtMann

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#4 posted 04-21-2019 02:58 PM

Longer Beds are high on the list of details I want in a jointer, I know it’s not one of your choices but I’d say check out Grizzly tools their products are made in Taiwan and they have good customer service and Laguna’s are made in China and their customer service has a bad track record.

https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-8-x-72-Jointer-with-Built-in-Mobile-Base/G0855

https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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dbw

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#5 posted 04-21-2019 03:14 PM

The bigger question is: is a Laguna jointer a good machine or is it going to be a headache. I don’t NEED a jointer so I can wait until I have enough $ saved up to buy a really good one. I like the specs on the Laguna and they’re on sale through 4/25.

-- measure 3 times, cut once

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#6 posted 04-21-2019 04:02 PM

I did the long, and exhaustive search for the best 8” jointer for me a few years ago after looking for 3 years for a nice used machine, and continually finding them costing more as used machines, then I paid for my Jointer.

I ended up buying the model before the Grizzly G0857 I don’t know the exact difference, but it was suggested they changed the manufacturer over there, because of timeline issues with the folks who built mine??? IOW the place I got mine wasn’t keeping up with sales, and the new place promised to do better. All I know for sure is since then I frequently see threads of buyers having to wait, which I figure is due to a lot of sales for this tool.

I absolutely love mine. It has done everything I imagined it might. I think ArtMan made a good point about cutting close to final size, and even when you don’t note it as much you’ll loose less material trying to make that shorter board true, than a longer length most of the time.

FWIW I jointed parts for an 8’ tall door I helped a friend custom make, and I have had no issues jointing anything I have needed to.

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coxhaus

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#7 posted 04-23-2019 05:07 AM

Is the Powermatic a lot better than a Jet jointer? I have a Jet 6 inch jointer which given to me. It has longer beds than my old Delta 6 inch jointer which I really like.

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#8 posted 04-23-2019 05:40 AM

I have the Laguna 8” jointer. I am very satisfied with the finish of the boards after jointing. I had one early problem with the machine, but minor. I have several Laguna machines, and have found customer support to be excellent. Not sure where the bad rep is coming from. Their manuals are another story. Similar to military toilet paper – near worthless. They are in the process of redoing their manuals, and cs did send me pdf files. To my knowledge, their machines are made in Taiwan, not China

-- Rich Gig Harbor, WA

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#9 posted 04-23-2019 05:42 AM

If I had not gotten the Laguna, I would have gone Powermatic

-- Rich Gig Harbor, WA

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#10 posted 04-23-2019 09:26 AM



I have several Laguna machines, and have found customer support to be excellent. Not sure where the bad rep is coming from. Their manuals are another story. Similar to military toilet paper – near worthless.

- fly2low

It has only been in the last few years that you would hear your opinion voiced about Laguna = Good Cust serv. In the past, it was always a tale of woe whenever their tools had been mentioned on forums, but that is going back to 1996 or so. I know I have never considered them on tool buys. Too many makers without that baggage to take a chance with that kind of $$$$$$$$$.

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#11 posted 04-23-2019 12:44 PM

If Laguna’s customer service is a concern, I can say that I recently had a very good experience with them. I purchased a Supermax 19-38 from their outlet site, and as I set a straight edge across the table to align the infeed/outfeed tables I purchases, I noticed that the conveyor bed was bent. A couple e-mails and a few pictures to Laguna’s cs, and they shipped me out a replacement conveyor table. The reps were very pleasant to work with, as well.

Their cs reputation gave me pause initially, but my positive experience has helped convince me that they have, as others have suggested, upped their game in recent years.

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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