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Forum topic by BlueRidgeDog posted 04-16-2019 11:32 PM 1117 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BlueRidgeDog

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04-16-2019 11:32 PM

Topic tags/keywords: router

Using a 1/2” bit in a table and at low depth to creep up on a slot. Boom.

Fixed that, but man Freud once was a good tool.

Personally I can’t stand 1/4” shank bits for this very reason…..


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therealSteveN

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#1 posted 04-16-2019 11:53 PM

Unless it’s something I really want to use a palm router to do, I’ll always buy 1/2” shanks. I can’t think of the number of those cheesy 1/4” shank flush cutters I’ve blown up, back when that was your option.

-- Think safe, be safe

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cjfarmer

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#2 posted 04-17-2019 12:10 AM

Freud is like everthing else the price stays high the quality is a sad sick joke. Chinese makers are laughing till they wet their pants. I guess im lucky i bought freud 1/2 in bits long ago. They are great. I feel so sad for the next generation of builders and woodworkers they wont have good wood or good tools to work with.

-- Who is we and where is here? - bullwinkle

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ctsdeglpks

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#3 posted 04-17-2019 01:17 AM

Been there, done that. Not nice when it happens, looked up one day and saw an Asian guy quietly driving away from the scene of the accident like he had nothing to do with it. The guy who sold him the licence to drive was hiding in the corner greedily counting his profits. lol, I laugh but thats where it’s all going.

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BlueRidgeDog

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#4 posted 04-17-2019 01:21 AM

Going to start replacing them with whiteside and be done with it. Problem is when I “need” one right now.

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Fred Hargis

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#5 posted 04-17-2019 10:37 AM

I wish the 3/8” shank bits were more popular than they are, I really try to avoid using the 1/4” shanks if at all possible….but there are times you have no other choice.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Gene Howe

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#6 posted 04-17-2019 11:49 AM

No red cutting tools in my shop.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Woodbum

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#7 posted 04-17-2019 12:10 PM

Try to match the shank size closer to the bit size. A 1/4” bit with a 1/2” shank is as bad as a 1/2” bit with a 1/4” shank. Being machined from a single piece of stock, when a significant tapering takes place, a weakness is very often encountered. You would not want a 1/4” upcut spiral bit with a 1/2” shank, too much stress. Nothing wrong with Freud; they are still good bits. Most all, if not all of the Freud bits are produced in Italy, as is CMT. Even Whiteside bits now use some Chinese components. That is why they are not labeled as American made any more. It is a global economy now, and like it or not, we are having to adjust accordingly. I have Freud and Whiteside bits in my bit arsenal and would hate to be limited to just one of these brands. Just my 2 cents worth.

-- "Now I'm just another old guy wearing funny clothes"

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Rich

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#8 posted 04-18-2019 03:01 PM


Try to match the shank size closer to the bit size. A 1/4” bit with a 1/2” shank is as bad as a 1/2” bit with a 1/4” shank. Being machined from a single piece of stock, when a significant tapering takes place, a weakness is very often encountered. You would not want a 1/4” upcut spiral bit with a 1/2” shank, too much stress. Nothing wrong with Freud; they are still good bits. Most all, if not all of the Freud bits are produced in Italy, as is CMT. Even Whiteside bits now use some Chinese components. That is why they are not labeled as American made any more. It is a global economy now, and like it or not, we are having to adjust accordingly. I have Freud and Whiteside bits in my bit arsenal and would hate to be limited to just one of these brands. Just my 2 cents worth.

- Woodbum

+1. My Freud bits are all going strong. I do have that 1/2” bit with the 1/4” shaft, but I use it to bevel plugs in a palm router where I’m removing a minuscule amount of wood. I’d never try to route a groove with it, and if I had to I’d go in maybe 1/16” increments.

-- Knowledge is not skill. Knowledge plus ten thousand times is skill. -- Shinichi Suzuki

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johnstoneb

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#9 posted 04-18-2019 03:42 PM

It’s a damn poor mechanic that blames the tool. Don’t use 1/4” shanks on a 1/2” bit. I’ve broken several 1/4” shank bits when using them on larger cutters. I don’t do it any more.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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BlueRidgeDog

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#10 posted 04-18-2019 03:55 PM



It s a damn poor mechanic that blames the tool. Don t use 1/4” shanks on a 1/2” bit. I ve broken several 1/4” shank bits when using them on larger cutters. I don t do it any more.

- johnstoneb

Ouch! So when do you use the bit they sell? I generally go 1/2” when I buy now, but that 1/4” has been in my kit for years and years…been sharpened many times and has cut lots.

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Kirk650

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#11 posted 04-18-2019 04:24 PM

The earlier suggestion to buy Whiteside router bits is worth following. As for bit shank size, I have a lot of 1/4 shank bits. Never had one snap. I am careful to not stress them too much.

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