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Forum topic by 1215 posted 04-16-2019 03:27 AM 214 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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1215

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04-16-2019 03:27 AM

I own a dewalt (older, I think the 733 or 734) benchtop thickness planer. I’m seriously considering building a 20-23 foot, traditional lapstrake style powerboat. Access to local wood (white oak) is cheap and easy for me (I know a tree guy and have a buddy who owns a mobile (horizontal bandsaw style) sawmill.

Typically I like old iron machines and don’t mind taking the time to restore something. Except for the RAS (12” amf dewalt), all of my machines are Delta Rockwell or Delta Milwaukee. I don’t really care what brand the planer is, as long as it’ll work well and be quieter than the dewalt. I don’t think I’d ever need much more than 13-14” width. For this boat project I probably won’t need more than 6-8” wide but would consider a machine in the 16-18” range if I could find a good one.

It’ll be mostly white oak but also some teak and mahogany too. Then after that who knows. I’d rather a stand-alone machine (machine on a stand, not a benchtop) and have access to 3ph power (ideally that would be easier than a 1ph machine).

Are there any quality old machines that I can watch CL and see if something comes up?

Thanks.


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#1 posted 04-16-2019 05:04 AM

You’re planning to plank with the oak? Most builders would say it’s too heavy a wood for planking, but excellent for steam bent frames and stringers. Some like it for trim as well, but water makes it turn black (eventually); very hard to keep varnish on it. Around here (Pac NW), many plank with red cedar. I’ve always heard eastern white cedar is highly regarded, as is Port Orford cedar, and yellow cedar too. I like yellow cedar because it is of moderate weight, and very elastic and tough. Can be steam bent also. Mahogany is another, preferably Honduras or African (not Philipine). Doug fir has also been used for planking. I don’t mean the BORG fir, but real Douglas fir—close grained and vertical grain (quarter sawn to you easterners).

An old iron planer I like is the Delta/Rockwell in 13” or 15” size. Sometimes can be found used at a good price. I had a 13” from 1982 that was made in Brazil. Of several planers I’ve had, I liked it best.

Good luck. Lapstrake can make a really sweet boat.

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#2 posted 04-16-2019 07:14 AM

Powermatic 100 is a great combination of common, bullet proof, simple, and a great performer. In a 12” machine that would be my target, hands-down. There are other solid preformers out there, but the PM100 is easy to work on and easy to find parts for.

in the 18” range look for Delta (wedge bed), Oliver (model 399), and Yates American (model j-180). All are great planners, and the Yates and Oliver are hardly bigger than a 12” planer, while the Delta isn’t enormous like the Powermatics are.The Yates J-180 is the coolest looking of the 3 if that matters to you.

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#3 posted 04-16-2019 02:41 PM



You re planning to plank with the oak? Most builders would say it s too heavy a wood for planking, but excellent for steam bent frames and stringers. Some like it for trim as well, but water makes it turn black (eventually); very hard to keep varnish on it. Around here (Pac NW), many plank with red cedar. I ve always heard eastern white cedar is highly regarded, as is Port Orford cedar, and yellow cedar too. I like yellow cedar because it is of moderate weight, and very elastic and tough. Can be steam bent also. Mahogany is another, preferably Honduras or African (not Philipine). Doug fir has also been used for planking. I don t mean the BORG fir, but real Douglas fir—close grained and vertical grain (quarter sawn to you easterners).

An old iron planer I like is the Delta/Rockwell in 13” or 15” size. Sometimes can be found used at a good price. I had a 13” from 1982 that was made in Brazil. Of several planers I ve had, I liked it best.

Good luck. Lapstrake can make a really sweet boat.

- runswithscissors


Not sure I’ll plank with the white oak, probably just as you said, frames and stringers. I’m not sure what the planks will be yet. I was thinking the Delta/Rockwell units but wasn’t sure how they performed. I guess I’ll keep my eye out for one and see how it goes… Thanks!

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1215

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#4 posted 04-16-2019 02:44 PM



Powermatic 100 is a great combination of common, bullet proof, simple, and a great performer. In a 12” machine that would be my target, hands-down. There are other solid preformers out there, but the PM100 is easy to work on and easy to find parts for.

in the 18” range look for Delta (wedge bed), Oliver (model 399), and Yates American (model j-180). All are great planners, and the Yates and Oliver are hardly bigger than a 12” planer, while the Delta isn t enormous like the Powermatics are.The Yates J-180 is the coolest looking of the 3 if that matters to you.

- TheGreatJon


Thanks! I do like the look of the Yates but there is a delta wedge bed on CL locally so that may end up being the one.

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#5 posted 04-16-2019 04:53 PM

A man near me built a boat from concrete, but died before launch. Even concrete will float by displacing enough water. White oak planks would make one strong boat, just a tad heavy. I found a used grizzly planer, and have no complaints. It is older, but I am away from home and don’t know the model. $400 on CL. Post pictures as you progress.

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