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Forum topic by eddit posted 04-10-2019 10:54 PM 1316 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-10-2019 10:54 PM

Never had this before (least not that I’ve noticed) but I just took some walnut panels out of bessey clamps and had black stain marks where the glue line met the clamp. I had assumed this was only a problem for black pipe clamps. Have I just been lucky up till this point? Was it the walnut?

Ive cleaned my pipe clamps in the past with white vinegar, and then waxed them with Johnson’s wax to easily remove the glue. Other then that just regular parallel clamps.


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#1 posted 04-10-2019 10:58 PM

Any time you combine wood tannin and iron and moisture (glue) you will get black marks, if you think it is bad with walnut, just wait until you try oak.

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#2 posted 04-10-2019 11:43 PM



Any time you combine wood tannin and iron and moisture (glue) you will get black marks, if you think it is bad with walnut, just wait until you try oak.

- bondogaposis

Yes i’ve found that woods that ebonize well get those black marks from the glue lines.

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#3 posted 04-11-2019 12:23 PM

Bondo is right. Wait until you try oak. I put waxed paper between my clamps and the glue surface. It keeps the black off the wood and the glue off the clamps.

-- Grant Wilkinson, Ottawa ON

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#4 posted 04-11-2019 01:13 PM

I put panels on top of spacers that hold off the bars about an inch.

Once clamped, you can clean the glue, too.

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#5 posted 04-11-2019 01:14 PM

Thanks for the confirmations. I guess I’ve just gotten lucky in the past, never seen it this bad or deep. Luckily it’s on the “bottom” of the panels :)

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#6 posted 04-11-2019 02:26 PM

You could also apply a single layer of packing tape to the beam of the clamp, this will prevent the clamp bar from touching the work piece. If you are using pipe clamps you could cut a few slit rings from pvc pipe and use them as standoffs to prevent the contact.

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#7 posted 04-17-2019 09:05 PM

If your normal sanding won’t remove the black marks, try oxalic acid (Rockler…pretty cheap). It really works well on oak, and it should work on walnut.

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#8 posted 04-18-2019 12:40 PM

I keep a roll of wax paper in my garage and put that down between clamps and wood, keeps both happy.

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#9 posted 04-18-2019 03:18 PM

Like Tech Teacher, I use clear packing tape on my pipes and Bessys. But, i like the pvc pipe idea very much.
I use Oxalic acid to bleach wood…evens out the color. I’m not sure about using it in selected areas.
Amazon sells it. 2lb for $13 with free shipping.

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