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MitcherNeaf

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04-07-2019 04:06 AM

Been doing your basic household carpentry for a few years and have most of the basic tools. Looking to upgrade to something more for woodworking and found this set here
https://pennstate.craigslist.org/tls/d/state-college-complete-wood-shop-tool/6859769736.html
wondering what you guys think, or can send me in the right direction on what I should be looking for.

As of right now I just have a cheap ryobi table saw fine for doing 2×4’s but for anything nice is painful to use. Outside of that I have nothing he is selling in this lot. I really am just looking for a nice table saw that will last me.

Thanks
Mitch


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#1 posted 04-07-2019 04:34 AM

Rule No. 5: In the time between finding a machine and asking others if you should buy it someone else will come to the proper conclusion.

Quick. Go buy them. At worst you can sell them for more but if they work they are worth it! Most likely lots of good accessories and jigs too.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#2 posted 04-07-2019 04:38 AM

A few notes on the ad: The scroll saw isn’t: it’s bandsaw, probably 10” or 12” (14” is more desirable); the planer is actually a Craftsman “jointer-planer,” aka jointer (not a planer). Though my dad had one of those, and liked it, the table is quite short, which limits your jointing to fairly short boards. I assume the router is mounted in the bench top router table, and I’m guessing its a Craftsman, and very likely has only a 1/4” collet (you will soon discover that you also need a 1/2” collet for running larger bits). If it’s an aluminum router table, they are mostly of dubious quality (not very robust). Can’t tell much about the table saw, except it appears to be another C’man, and has sheet metal table wings. I believe many people like that saw well enough, and have reported on it positively. Can’t tell much about the lathe, though it does appear to have cast iron beds (Sears’ single-tube bed is generally not highly regarded).

Not a very enthusiastic endorsement, I’m afraid, but for the money, it might give you satisfaction for a while.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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#3 posted 04-07-2019 04:52 AM

Not a very enthusiastic endorsement, I m afraid, but for the money, it might give you satisfaction for a while.

- runswithscissors

+1 I just didn’t have the energy to type all of that. For $500 bucks it seems a great place to start if you have non of those tools. I see lathe tools and chucks and face plates. I’m sure you can get those in the deal. That stuff allows you to jump right in and get to work and is worth a few hundred alone. Router bits, saw blades etc. You’ll have a useable shop for $500.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#4 posted 04-07-2019 04:53 AM

The scroll saw isn’t: it s bandsaw…

The scroll saw is between the lathe and band saw…

Nothing high end in the lot, but worth the asking price IMO for what you get. You can certainly sell off the tools you don’t want to recover some of the money spent.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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runswithscissors

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#5 posted 04-07-2019 05:00 AM

Ah, I see it now with my magnifying glass. So maybe the bandsaw isn’t part of the deal?

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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#6 posted 04-07-2019 11:36 AM

Rule No. 5: In the time between finding a machine, and asking others if you should buy it, someone else will come to the proper conclusion.
- Andybb

Yep.


Ah, I see it now with my magnifying glass. So maybe the bandsaw isn t part of the deal?
- runswithscissors

I would imagine it’s one of those ‘Clean out the old man’s house’ deal, since he states that his father can no longer use them. Basement looks pretty barren already.


https://pennstate.craigslist.org/tls/d/state-college-complete-wood-shop-tool/6859769736.html
wondering what you guys think, or can send me in the right direction on what I should be looking for.
- MitcherNeaf

For $500, that a lot of ‘stuff’. In my area, where the CL prices are at times laughable, the tablesaw alone would be $500. If you’ve got the room for them, set them all up. If not, sell off those that you don’t have room or use for.

IMHO, unless you’ve got a driving urge to start turning wood, the lathe would be the first to go. I have an old Montgomery Wards wood lathe that sees use once a decade.

I find the scroll saw to be quite handy for doing a lot of things.

That band saw should be fine for most smallish projects, just don’t expect to re-saw that 100 year old oak tree in your back yard with it.

Set both the C’man TS and Jointer up as accurately as possible and they will serve you well for the time until you want to start making ultra precision ‘stuff’.

-- "In the end, it's all Hack..."

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#7 posted 04-07-2019 11:53 AM

Buy it. Sell what you don’t want.

-- Petey

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#8 posted 04-07-2019 12:24 PM

I don’t know where you live, but “near State College” could be a rather isolated area, a lot of people from some areas of PA might not want to make the trip.
I’d use the old Richard Rawlings rule, the guy who owns Gas Monkey Garage.
“You can buy a $20,000 car with $10,000 if you take all cash going into the deal and show it.”

I’d take $500 in $50’s, call and make the appointment to get you and the seller in front of the tools, and make him a cash now offer of $400. Show him the 8 $50’s. If he balks, add another $50. If you really, really want all of it, and it seems nice for what you want, cave and give him the $500, making noises about how good of a negotiator he is.

The reason? It is all low end, beginner’s stuff, and the only way to recoup your money down the road is to sell it off piece by piece, as you replace things with better tools. Most woodworkers who have been in it for a while would not buy most of these tools, which means you have to find a beginner to sell off to. You will want a full size bandsaw, for instance, down the road. And on it goes. Welcome to the wonderful world of spending money on one expensive hobby!

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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#9 posted 04-07-2019 12:35 PM

I don’t know, if all you want is the table saw, you should be able to get one like it for around $125. On the other hand if you buy the lot and then sell off the individual pieces that you don’t want, you could show a profit.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#10 posted 04-07-2019 01:42 PM



I don t know where you live, but “near State College” could be a rather isolated area, a lot of people from some areas of PA might not want to make the trip.
I d use the old Richard Rawlings rule, the guy who owns Gas Monkey Garage.
“You can buy a $20,000 car with $10,000 if you take all cash going into the deal and show it.”

I d take $500 in $50 s, call and make the appointment to get you and the seller in front of the tools, and make him a cash now offer of $400. Show him the 8 $50 s. If he balks, add another $50. If you really, really want all of it, and it seems nice for what you want, cave and give him the $500, making noises about how good of a negotiator he is.

The reason? It is all low end, beginner s stuff, and the only way to recoup your money down the road is to sell it off piece by piece, as you replace things with better tools. Most woodworkers who have been in it for a while would not buy most of these tools, which means you have to find a beginner to sell off to. You will want a full size bandsaw, for instance, down the road. And on it goes. Welcome to the wonderful world of spending money on one expensive hobby!

- Tennessee


Why not pay the $500? It is a good price, why haggle?

-- I always knew gun nuts where afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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Randy Bartlett

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#11 posted 04-07-2019 01:52 PM

The bandsaw is smallish. You can get those mid-80s tablesaws for $100 around me (I got one for free). I have that craftsman 6” jointer (which I have used on 10’ boards) and love it. I paid $125. I’m not into turning so I can’t sayty about the lathe. Everything would need to run really smooth and have nice dust collection already done before I would pay $500, but I am pretty cheap.

-- RandyB, Novi, MI

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#12 posted 04-07-2019 07:17 PM


IMHO, unless you ve got a driving urge to start turning wood, the lathe would be the first to go. I have an old Montgomery Wards wood lathe that sees use once a decade.

- HackFabrication


Ya never know. I bought an old MW lathe that I refurbished and it’s one of my favorite tools. Great therapy as I can start and finish a nice pen in a couple of hours.


Why not pay the $500? It is a good price, why haggle?

- RobS888


+1

So, tell uis. Did you buy the stuff? If not, somebody else probably has but no posts from the OP since the OP so this may all be moot. :-)

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#13 posted 04-07-2019 11:42 PM

If all you really want is a table saw upgrade, I’d hold off till you find a saw with a riving knife. i don’t think that Craftsman has one. Best single safety item I moved to.

I live in State College. Slim pickins as far as quality woodworking gear. Lots of people selling entry level stuff for top dollar. If you can drive 2 hours to Harrisburg or Pittsburgh the selection gets much better. Altoona craigslist always has heavy metalworking tools, must be all the retired railroad workers.

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MitcherNeaf

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#14 posted 04-08-2019 02:07 AM

I think I’m gonna wait on it. I’m not real good at reselling stuff and really just want a nice table saw and possibly a router with table at this point. Don’t think the wife will appreciate a bunch of tools in the garage I dont really use. I just was hoping maybe it was one of those things where if everyone was like yea def jump on it I would go for it!

Thanks for the tips I’ll keep looking!

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