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Forum topic by Tennessee posted 04-03-2019 09:20 PM 841 views 2 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Tennessee

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04-03-2019 09:20 PM

It seems like forever since I’ve posted anything here on Lumberjocks, but just this week something finally came together that I thought I would post. This stuff never, ever happens to me, but I finally scored.

About three months ago, a fellow found one of my old guitar business cards in my vet’s office, (I built my vet two guitars), and he called me. He had just started running a sawmill business on his property and wanted to know if I had interest in some black walnut. Of course, I said, I always need walnut. Who doesn’t? And black? Certainly!
I visited, where he was knee deep in firewood customers, cutting up aromatic cedar for another, making fence posts for another, and on and on. Problem is he is a bit too inexpensive.
The black walnut was there, nine months cut down and ricked on pallets but still on the log, a 12 ft. 3 inch long log, a 90 inch log, and a 72 inch log, all about 28-32 inches in diameter. And the 90 inch log had a beautiful crotch at one end, culminating in two 16” branches. But he asked me to wait a couple weeks, since he was buried, so I agreed.

That couple weeks grew to three months, and to be honest, I gave up, thinking that somebody had certainly just bought the walnut logs by now.

Last week I was having a conversation with my pastor of my church on the phone when I felt another call coming in. I looked, and it was the walnut guy! After getting off with my pastor, I called him back and we agreed that right away, I would buy the large 90” crotch log for $400, cut to my specifications, delivered by him.

I agreed to help him on the mill, since I don’t get to do that very often, and while we were cutting, I asked him to think on how much for either the 12 footer, or the other log, in addition to the 90” log we were cutting.
Long story short, we settled on $1200 for the 90” log we were cutting, and the entire 12 foot log, which had the trunk which was a bit over 36” at the trunk.

When all said and done, by my math, (length X width divided by 144, I have this load around 650-675 board feet of walnut. I’m not even counting the thickness. Most planks are 1 1/8” thick, and the five thicker planks are 2 and 3” thick, proud to about 1/4” more.
Those five thick planks, three two inches thick with the crotch at 90” long, and then two planks three inches thick, which are 75” long each. There is also a 6” by 6” square log, 75” long, and two quarter round logs for bowl making, shown in the pics. And finally a 2 1/2 X 6” log, 75” long.
Like I said, this stuff never happens to me, but it is on my property, ricked up under my carport/outdoor room, and I ended up giving the driver of the delivery truck $100, since they filled a 3/4 ton GMC full bed TWICE, and offloaded it all for me, while I stuck up the stickers. So total, $1300 for just shy of 700 board feet, not counting thickness as an adder.
It is running anywhere from 33% to 24% moisture, depending on the thickness and where you measure. When some of it hits about 12-13%, I’ll plane some to get the full beauty. I also can cut some bowl blanks right away, and work them wet, so let the fun begin!

By the way, for those who follow me, I still build golf club hat racks, (over 240 sold now), still sell in the gallery here in SE Tennessee, and still do many, many stringed instrument repairs.
Thanks for looking, and you’all have a great day!
Oh, Ignore the motorcycles – I just didn’t have any space big enough in my wood room to handle most of this. It will be kept dry, a slight breeze blows there, and with the Tennessee summer coming, it should be dry enough to work in maybe five-six months, hopefully. I think maybe 5-8% loss to checking. Acceptable, considering I am a hair under $2 a bd. ft. for this stuff.

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN


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pottz

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#1 posted 04-03-2019 09:40 PM

you look like your a little crowed their how about i take some of that soggy walnut off your hands to free up some room,and heck ill even give ya 2.50 a bd ft so you make some money on the deal.i mean as a fellow lumber jock it’s the least i can do-lol.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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WayneC

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#2 posted 04-03-2019 09:59 PM

Wow. Looking forward to seeing some projects.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Craftsman on the lake

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#3 posted 04-03-2019 09:59 PM

The price of walnut these days… Here in New England anyway… This was nearly a steal. Way to go.

Oh… I hate you. ;-)

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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bruc101

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#4 posted 04-03-2019 10:11 PM

You show us that pile of Walnut, you don’t think much of your reputation do you. :-)

-- Bruce Free Plans https://traditionalwoodworking.org

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Tennessee

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#5 posted 04-03-2019 11:07 PM

Reputation be damned, I’ll take the Walnut!!

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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Tennessee

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#6 posted 04-03-2019 11:09 PM

Prime Walnut down here has fallen in price, around $5-7 a Bd. Ft. Still, yes, this was a steal. I’m positive it will never happen again…

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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Aj2

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#7 posted 04-03-2019 11:59 PM

Air dried walnut is a real treat. You did well :)

-- Aj

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AlaskaGuy

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#8 posted 04-04-2019 12:21 AM

I think this call for

:):):):):):)

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#9 posted 04-04-2019 12:56 AM

Seal it

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Tennessee

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#10 posted 04-04-2019 01:12 AM

Not so much worried about sealing it. Have never before save a couple times, and so far on this load, zero checking. Might in a couple days. I use melted paraffin. Good tip, we’ll see.

Always wanted a “You Suck”! Never got a deal that rated one!

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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Mark Wilson

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#11 posted 04-04-2019 06:56 AM

But, didn’t you recently say you stopped making guitars? What are you gonna do with all that?
Larry: You and I should hunt him down like dogs.
I just can’t think of a naughty enough word.
But, I kid. You know I kid.

-- Mark

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#12 posted 04-04-2019 08:32 AM


It is running anywhere from 33% to 24% moisture, depending on the thickness and where you measure. When some of it hits about 12-13%, I ll plane some to get the full beauty. I also can cut some bowl blanks right away, and work them wet, so let the fun begin!

By the way, for those who follow me, I still build golf club hat racks, (over 240 sold now), still sell in the gallery here in SE Tennessee, and still do many, many stringed instrument repairs.
Thanks for looking, and you all have a great day!
Oh, Ignore the motorcycles – I just didn t have any space big enough in my wood room to handle most of this. It will be kept dry, a slight breeze blows there, and with the Tennessee summer coming, it should be dry enough to work in maybe five-six months, hopefully. I think maybe 5-8% loss to checking. Acceptable, considering I am a hair under $2 a bd. ft. for this stuff.

I would triple that 5-6 month estimate. Black walnut is famous for taking 1 year per inch to get to 12% and it will absolutely fool your moisture meter because it’s so dense, you’ll think you’re at 12 when just 1/2” below that probe it’s still at 18, then you start to plane it and you’ll find the moisture.

Great score, but just plan on storing it a bit longer. The thinner stuff will dry quicker, but the 2” and 3” slabs will take 1-2 years.

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Tennessee

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#13 posted 04-04-2019 12:40 PM

I agree on the thicker slabs. I do have a problem with them…too heavy to pick up! The three inch thick ones, (two of them, 72” X 28” X 3”, them bad boys weigh a ton. Took all these two big boys had, with the help of a piece of roller conveyor just to get them off the truck.
You just don’t pick one up and put it under your arm and carry it into the shop. They probably will end up being something like river tables, when they do dry enough. I know the one inch per year rule, and really, with all the 1” stuff, I can wait.
I have two moisture meters, one a pad unit, one a pin unit. I might take one smaller plank, make it a sacrificial, and cut off an end every couple months, and use the pin meter to check the middle.
This way I can check the true moisture without making a huge mistake and making something that ends up with a check or big warp in it about half way though the process.
Tmanpdx, thanks for the tip on the slowness of black walnut. I actually thought it dried mostly at the same rate as most dense hardwoods. And I would guess the one trunk section, with a lot of minerals, (and color), in it would also dry very slowly, being very, very dense at that point on quite a few of the planks.

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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Boochiee

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#14 posted 04-04-2019 06:06 PM

Nice! I was just looking at walnut yesterday and was telling my wife I’m never making anything with it since I can barely afford just a few regular boards. haha Super jealous! I am also quite new to all this so who knows what the future holds :) Congrats on your payload :P

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NobodySpecial

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#15 posted 05-26-2019 04:52 PM

Just so you know, this pile of walnut made me sign up on the forum. Lol!
I’m in Cleveland also and would love to see some of your work. If you’re ever in the mood to have someone pick your brain let me know!

-- - Cleveland, TN

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