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Forum topic by mike5555 posted 04-02-2019 03:11 PM 480 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-02-2019 03:11 PM

Hi all!

My father has an old set of woodworking gouges. they seem to be unique as I can not find any pictures on line.

Back in the 50s and 60s my father was a journeyman pattern maker and a journeyman modelmaker, working on carving of full sized cars laminated in mahogany.

Now this set has a couple of gouge handles but all the blades are single and have a mounting hole on the back end of each one to mount to the handles. the set comes rolled up in a leather pouch each piece in it’s own pocket.

I don’t know anything about this set. and he is too old to remember.

Thank you fot your help it would be nice to identify these for him. and me.


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#1 posted 04-02-2019 03:14 PM

Photos would help greatly for this discussion.

-- Phil Allin - There are mountain climbers and people who talk about climbing mountains. The climbers have "selfies" at the summit!

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#2 posted 04-02-2019 03:29 PM

Yes, I don’t see any way we can possibly help without pictures.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#3 posted 04-02-2019 05:17 PM

That’s the problem I can not find pics. and My father lives 300 miles from me. I can draw a picture showing exactly what they look like, I will post later today. Thank you for your comments so far.
Mike

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#4 posted 04-02-2019 05:26 PM

That is tough. Hopefully your sketch will provide enough information for someone to have some insight :-)

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#5 posted 04-02-2019 06:51 PM

You have stated that your father used these gouges as a patternmaker, carving full sized auto body designs in laminated mahogany. I imagine that the work would require a mallet to drive the gouge(s). Perhaps the roughing out was done with power machinery.

I have been woodcarving since the 50’s, but the only carving tools I know of with changeable blades are from Flexcut. I would not want to use them to carve a mahogany piece the size of a car!

-- Phil Allin - There are mountain climbers and people who talk about climbing mountains. The climbers have "selfies" at the summit!

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#6 posted 04-02-2019 07:00 PM

Phil, I wonder if by:


... all the blades are single and have a mounting hole on the back end of each one to mount to the handles. the set comes rolled up in a leather pouch each piece in it s own pocket.
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- mike5555

Mike is describing a set of socket chisels/gouges?

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#7 posted 04-02-2019 11:24 PM

his is a rough but accurate sketch showing the varrious parts. Also a few years after retiring he designed and built a laminated propeller for the pilot of the company he went to work for after his short retirement.

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#8 posted 04-02-2019 11:39 PM

Whom did your father work for? He was building models or making actual parts/components?

-- - Crud. Go tell your mother that I need a Band-aid.

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#9 posted 04-02-2019 11:58 PM

He was working for the Lans corporation in Lansing Michigan That is where I was born. I believe the owners name was Chuck ?

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#10 posted 04-03-2019 12:40 AM

Sorry Mike. The only thing that I can think of is the Flexcut set.

Although it’s very possible someone else had that idea before they did.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#11 posted 04-03-2019 01:11 AM

Im sure someone has the answer. Thank you for all of your help Ill keep looking!
Mike

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#12 posted 04-14-2019 08:36 PM

Hi all! I found them but the sets that are here https://www.vintagetools.net/product/set-of-12-straight-carving-gouges-685d do not seem to identify a maker. Mike

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#13 posted 04-14-2019 08:37 PM

Here are the 2 standard handels

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#14 posted 04-15-2019 05:38 PM

Interesting! – but I don’t think these gouges were used for woodcarving. The gouges I use are beveled on the outside of the curve – with a bevel of 15 to 25 degrees. These are on the inside and appear to be about 45 degrees. The individual blades are mounted to the handle on threaded rods. This would quickly loosen with the forces needed to push such wide blades through wood. The handles are not designed for mallet use, having only a flimsy feral on the tang end. I believe these gouges were made to shape soft materials, perhaps even clay.

The blades appear to be pressed steel rather than forged. The rarity of these gouges says they were very specialized, or rejected by tradesmen.

-- Phil Allin - There are mountain climbers and people who talk about climbing mountains. The climbers have "selfies" at the summit!

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#15 posted 04-28-2019 10:49 PM

This is a Wellman Supply Pattern makers gouge set.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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