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Forum topic by Kirk650 posted 03-31-2019 11:48 PM 1670 views 0 times favorited 58 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Kirk650

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03-31-2019 11:48 PM

For years I’ve been using Ridgid 5” ROS and finally wore out 3 of them. Bought some new Ridgids and the dust control, which wasn’t great on the old ones, is worse on the new ones. I can hook them up to a shop vac, and dust control is good, but handling is awkward. So, other than Festool, what are you guys happy with?

I had a Bosch a few years back, but didn’t like it. Gave it to my sister. I also have a Makita, long grip style that I’ve had for at least 15 years, which is Ok but not great.

Help me out here…


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#1 posted 04-01-2019 12:04 AM

I hate sanding, but when I have to I use a dewalt ROS with a Rockler dust rite small port kit. https://www.rockler.com/dust-right-universal-small-port-hose-kit

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#2 posted 04-01-2019 03:29 AM

I have a festool and an older ridgid. I have the rocker dust port system mentioned above and it is great, unless your shop vac is strong, then the hose shrinks and is hard to use. I got the festool sander on sale for $99 a couple years back and it is way beyond an ordinary ROSs. They have a hole in the center of the pad that shoots air out to help channel dust to the 8 holes on the periphery. Try the rocker kit when you do decide on a model. I also bought the extra connectors they sell for smaller diameters.

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#3 posted 04-01-2019 03:41 AM

I have a Craftsman random orbital sander with the Rockler Dust Right small port kit that I use to connect it to my shop vac. I do find myself sometimes lifting the dust hose so it doesn’t hang up on the edge of the work surface, but it hasn’t been too much of a pain in the posterior. It beats the heck out of the dust box that came with the sander.

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#4 posted 04-01-2019 04:02 AM

I have two bosch sanders and a black and decker finishing sanders and dust collection isn’t an issue. My bench edges are rounded so hoses don’t get hung up on any edges.

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#5 posted 04-01-2019 04:30 AM



I can hook them up to a shop vac, and dust control is good, but handling is awkward.

- Kirk650

If the sander is doing a good job sanding, make sure you are using a good quality hose connected to the sander before booting it to the side of the road. Half the reason the expensive Festool models are so well ranked is because of the attention to detail they place on the hoses, add to that the overhead hook deal, and awkward just stepped out of the equation.

Rockler is now selling tubing, and has had an overarm support to take the weight off the hose for a while now.

Tubing

Hook deal It holds the extension cord too.

I have some like this, and it works a LOT better than plain Jane dust collection tubing.

I also have one I got at Amazon a while back. lot like this but probably 20 or 30 foot, it’s Orange in color, and looks like the stuff above. Not sure if they quit selling it?? Really good stuff for a longer reach, feels almost silky, it just follows, nice stuff.

A friend has this CenTec stuff, he has it around his neck from the left side, and it comes down his right arm where he is holding the sander, and he loves it. I’ve tried it, and it works well without needing a hook

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#6 posted 04-01-2019 10:46 AM

The Festool RO150 multi-mode sander that I’ve used for well over a decade provides both aggressive removal and fine polishing with VERY little dust.

One advantage of the great dust removal is that the sandpaper media lasts a long time w/o clogging.

Their dust extraction system is used with this sander.

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#7 posted 04-01-2019 11:09 AM

Mirka Deros !

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#8 posted 04-01-2019 11:35 AM

I use a 1-1/2” hose connected to the main shop vac hose that fits into the dust port on the ROS. The smaller diameter hose doesn’t drag the back of the ROS down and I hold the ROS in one hand and the other hand holds the hose. It doesn’t take long to get used to.

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#9 posted 04-01-2019 01:27 PM

I’ve had a Bosch 3725 for many years, and hooked up to a vac it has very good; in fact I would call it excellent, dust capture. The one thing I had to work out was that the vac suction actually pulled the sander into the wood, as if you were leaning on it. So I had to cobble together a vent system to reduce the suction at the sander slightly. Eventually I got a VS vac and run it on the lowest speed with the sander.

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#10 posted 04-01-2019 01:56 PM


.... but handling is awkward…. So, other than Festool, what are you guys happy with?
- Kirk650

Hey K’650, if the awkward is the hose, try some of this webbing ... stops the hose from snagging on sharp edges,

Though you cant go past a Festool Vac with a Rotex on the end…

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#11 posted 04-01-2019 02:02 PM

i tried the rockler hose, its is heavy, unless you put some kinda hanger to hold it up, i ended up purchasing a festool vac, their hoses are very light, but in sanding a lot it does get tiring draggin hose, so i came up with a metal hanger on my sanding table to take ’’some’’ of the load off, does make it easier.
best of luck with solution
Rj in az

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#12 posted 04-01-2019 02:17 PM

I have a 5” Ridgid like you have, but a couple years ago I got a 6” Bosch ROS along with the Bosch hose. It’s basically similar to the Festool hose in that it’s smaller diameter, slides more easily, and seems to handle a lot better. Hooking up the harder 2.5” hose to my ROS feels incredibly awkward now.

I think this one is the hose I got.

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#13 posted 04-01-2019 02:28 PM

Festool RO series sanders and Mirka Deros for both performance and dust control. Not cheap but if you hate sanding these are the best, besides you have already purchased how many sanders – “buy once, cry once” and “cheap is expensive…” For the best dust control attach Abranet or clones of same (Klingspor) to either of the above but be sure to use an interface pad w/ abranet or you will wear out the hook and loop on your sander pad.

-- Cheap is expensive! - my Dad

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#14 posted 04-01-2019 02:37 PM

If you’re serious about collecting small tools, IMO you can’t go wrong with a dust extractor like a Festool or Fein rather than a shop vac.

From experience I can tell you hands down, my Festool extractor compared to shop vac is no comparision.

Yes, its an expensive tool, but I totally agree with the previous poster.

I use a Festool sander exclusively now and an ROS air sander occasionally. My old PC sander is quietly collecting dust somewhere in the shop.

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jonah

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#15 posted 04-01-2019 02:54 PM

I have to disagree. I don’t own any Festool gear, but a good shop vac, the Bosch hose, and the Bosch sander collect basically every scrap of dust when I sand. I don’t even need to clean my bench afterward.

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