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Forum topic by SMP posted 03-20-2019 03:47 PM 1141 views 0 times favorited 36 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-20-2019 03:47 PM

I’m not sure if this is a regional thing or what. But seems like since more of the DIY stuff now is using walnut, I have seen walnut prices getting crazy where I live. And whenever I go to the local wood store, more people seem to be buying walnut. A few years ago, it was more inline with other hardwoods. Last time I bought some a couple years ago for a table build it was around $6. The other day I went to pick some up and it was $11-12 BF. And yet maple, cherry, QSWO, mahogany etc are still close to the same. Just curious if this was more localized supply and demand, or related to supply?


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#1 posted 03-20-2019 03:54 PM

In Indiana it’s doesn’t fluctuate that much. Trends/Chinese may influence the price by about a buck. Not much more than that. Last time I checked 6$ was about right give or take.

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#2 posted 03-20-2019 03:55 PM

I’ll sell you some for 10$ bf

-- if it is to be it is up to me

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#3 posted 03-20-2019 03:57 PM

This article may help answer your question. Basically it IS supply and demand. Apparently, it’s even more in demand overseas where the prices are even higher. And the best logs are being sliced into veneer, where they can command a higher price.
https://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/wood/components-sourcing/why-walnut-lumber-graded-lower-other-hardwoods

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#4 posted 03-20-2019 04:04 PM

yeah 11+ seems pretty high,i just bought some a couple weeks ago for around 6,im in socal.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#5 posted 03-20-2019 04:08 PM



yeah 11+ seems pretty high,i just bought some a couple weeks ago for around 6,im in socal.

- pottz

Where at in Socal? I am in San Diego but willing to drive, as I sometimes have to drive to Newport Beach or LA for work.

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#6 posted 03-20-2019 04:45 PM



im in socal.

- pottz
I am in San Diego

- SMP

Who cares about the price of walnut, go surf! Sorry. I’m slightly done with winter.

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#7 posted 03-20-2019 05:26 PM

Hard to compare lumber prices without comparing grade, condition, quantity, thickness, etc?

Clear #1 s4s 4/4 will always be more expensive than #2 common rough cut; not uncommon to see 50-100% difference in price from same supplier between highest/lowest grades?

$10-$12 has been local retail price for s4s FAS grade black walnut lumber in small qty for a last couple of years. Basically since Chinese demand sky rocketed. Several hundred bdft purchase drops price 20-30%. Although I can still find $6 bdft prices on east coast 4/4 black walnut shorts at one supplier.

I also find 2 different types of Walnut lumber in Arizona with 2 different price ranges?

West Coast ‘Claro’ Walnut typically sells for $10-$25 bd/ft
https://www.wood-database.com/claro-walnut/

East Coast Black Walnut typically sells for $6-$12 bd/ft
https://www.wood-database.com/black-walnut/

Local urban loggers want $12+ bdft for figured slabs.

Distance from trees is important.
Have to under stand that Arizona Lumber prices are usually $1-$3 higher than midwest US due transportation costs from east coast, for same grade of lumber. I.E. Walnut #1 common in my favorite Indiana/Ohio Sawyers cost me $3-5 max for a full unit, while same thing here in AZ cost me $6-8. Obviously wide boards, or heavily figured sell at top of price ranges.

If you want to post pictures, and better description of your $12 bd/ft walnut, we can better compare notes.

Cheers!

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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#8 posted 03-20-2019 05:46 PM


yeah 11+ seems pretty high,i just bought some a couple weeks ago for around 6,im in socal.

- pottz

Where at in Socal? I am in San Diego but willing to drive, as I sometimes have to drive to Newport Beach or LA for work.

- SMP


i get most of my hardwoods from HUDSON AND WEST located in torrance,and they have a store in san diego called TH&H 858-614-1800. i mispoke though about the price i was thinking about some cherry i bought not walnut.i asked them and for #1 s4s 4/4 it is about 11-12 so the captains estimates are right on.if you want to save money and are willing to plane it yourself that will get the price down.i usually buy the cheaper grades just because i want the character and plane my own,then you can get down to that range.sorry for getting you too excited.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#9 posted 03-20-2019 05:50 PM

I pay in the $8’s for 4/4 Black Walnut in Tampa Bay

Rich

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#10 posted 03-20-2019 05:54 PM

Funny, I haven’t noticed a “trend” in Walnut. It seems like we do about the same quantity of Walnut projects each year – just a handful. Occasionally, we will get a house that goes nuts with sequence-matched horizontal grain quarter-sawn veneer panels, (which looks awesome, btw), but that is the rare bird.

We just finished a full bar in Walnut this last week – lots of hand carving, etc, but I am not sure where the “trend” is happening. Surely, not in Phoenix, AZ as far as I can observe.

If anything, I am seeing a trend in painted cabinetry – lots of white, gray and black paint.

Lots.
I blame the DIY Network and Chip and Joanna Gaines – ship lap panels and painted cabinets everywhere! Arrrrgh!

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#11 posted 03-20-2019 05:59 PM

Yes… Demand! I’ve had quite a few loggers and buyers come on to my place trying to convince me to sell standing timber, and always they mention the walnut. Because it doesn’t pay to have someone else log your timber, I’m moving to becoming my own sawyer… Setting up a band saw mill and kiln of my own. I also see the lack of quality reasonably priced walnut (and other hardwoods) for the USA lumberjock. Can’t see sending my timber to China for veneer.
Gimme a year and I should be producing dried lumber.
Regards, The Kentucky Toolsmith!

-- "Good enough" is just another way of saying "it could be better"...

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#12 posted 03-20-2019 06:08 PM


Hard to compare lumber prices without comparing grade, condition, quantity, thickness, etc?

Clear #1 s4s 4/4 will always be more expensive than #2 common rough cut; not uncommon to see 50-100% difference in price from same supplier between highest/lowest grades?

$10-$12 has been local retail price for s4s FAS grade black walnut lumber in small qty for a last couple of years. Basically since Chinese demand sky rocketed. Several hundred bdft purchase drops price 20-30%. Although I can still find $6 bdft prices on east coast 4/4 black walnut shorts at one supplier.

Cheers!

- CaptainKlutz

Yes I am talking in this case 4/4 S4S, at the same store. I just checked my google photos of a table I built for my travel trailer. It was January 27, 2018. So just over a year later. I used 4/4 s4s shorts that were $5.76 bf. I remember they were almost $2 cheaper than the full length, but perfect for my travel trailer. Last time I went the same shorts were closer to $9 and the 4/4 was 10.77, 8/4 was 11.50. I may go again today on the way home, I’ll check again.

i get most of my hardwoods from HUDSON AND WEST located in torrance,and they have a store in san diego called TH&H 858-614-1800. i mispoke though about the price i was thinking about some cherry i bought not walnut.i asked them and for #1 s4s 4/4 it is about 11-12 so the captains estimates are right on.if you want to save money and are willing to plane it yourself that will get the price down.i usually buy the cheaper grades just because i want the character and plane my own,then you can get down to that range.sorry for getting you too excited.

- pottz

Ok, yeah TH&H is where I have been getting most of my wood, etc the last few years. Closest place to my work.

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#13 posted 03-20-2019 06:12 PM

$3 to $4 here in Virginia direct from the mill, at times higher and at times not as dry as you want. We have an abundance of small to mid level mills with the advent of portable to simi-portable bandsaw type mills…wood is easy to find. Dry wood is not, so you buy it and put it up.

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#14 posted 03-20-2019 08:02 PM

I was in the local Woodcraft this week and they had a 10/4 live edge walnut slab, 7’ long by 18” wide. They were only asking $25 bdf. I passed.

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#15 posted 03-20-2019 08:09 PM

The good news is it seems demand for cherry has settled down. Now if I could just score a bunch of that dirt cheap ash everyone keeps bragging about.

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