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dado5

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03-19-2019 09:19 PM

I am a new wannabe woodworker and am starting to aquire tools. I have a festool track saw which i love and would like to get a domino as well. I dont have a biscuit jointer either. I would like to be able to glue up table tops and boards together to make furniture and I see biscuits used a lot to line up the joints. Can a domino be used for this as well. I understand a domino is stronger especially for cabinet use but for pure alignment can they both accomplish the same thing. I dont want to end up with redundant tooling if i can help it. Or will I eventually want both anyways?


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CWWoodworking

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#1 posted 03-19-2019 09:36 PM

You don’t need either for glued up panels. Boards should be flat enough to just glue them up.

I use a biscuit jointer for 1 specific thing. For that alone it’s worth it to me.

I don’t own a domino, but if I had to only choose one, it would be the domino.

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#2 posted 03-19-2019 09:47 PM

ive had a bisquit jointer for about 25 years and use it all the time,especially for keeping panels aligned during glue up,not for strength.also own a domino which will do the same but i never use it for that purpose,just for mortise and tenon in furniture construction.if i was going to only have one it would be a domino.but the cost difference is huge.as a newbie id hold off on spending that much on a tool you may not really need.if it’s just for glue ups get the bisquit.

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#3 posted 03-19-2019 09:59 PM

If you’re “starting to acquire tools” as a newbie and opted for a Festool track saw then cost doesn’t seem to be much of a factor. If that’s the case, get the Domino. It does all that the biscuit joiner will do and has versatility that the biscuit joiner can’t match.

if you decide to go with the biscuit joiner, I have the Porter Cable 557 and am quite satisfied with the machine. DeWalt also has a highly regarded unit that’s worth consideration.

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#4 posted 03-19-2019 11:59 PM

I use a biscuit joiner regularly to help align table tops and large panels during glue ups. It’s never crossed my mind to even consider buying a domino machine. I sill love dovetailed and mortise and tenon joinery. Have no desire to ever change my habits either. I guess I’m not one of the new gadget woodworkers, still sorta old family.

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SMP

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#5 posted 03-20-2019 03:23 AM

The main reason would be ( like many tools) because you want one. And justifying the expense with the money you saved making it yourself, at least thats what i do. Neither are required for what you are talking about doing.

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AlaskaGuy

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#6 posted 03-20-2019 03:33 AM

I have both and use both. If I have to give up one it would be the biscuit jointer.

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#7 posted 03-20-2019 03:43 AM

FYI, it’s biscuit “joiner” because it’s a joinery system, not a “jointer” which is a machine that makes things flat. Anyway, it’s something you can live without but does come in handy. Probably if you don’t have one, you won’t miss it; but if you buy one you’ll find uses for it.

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#8 posted 03-20-2019 05:44 AM

I have and use a bisqcuit joiner and have found other uses for the tool san bisqcuits.

I use the joiner to cut slots in the edges of material I am going to surface and/or use on my CNC.
Cutting slots on the edges provided an unencumbered surface that I can then “plane” flat and even hold the material for whatever I am planing to cut with the CNC.

I could do the same with my table saw but the bisqcuit joiner is much safer for this operation!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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AlaskaGuy

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#9 posted 03-20-2019 05:49 AM


FYI, it s biscuit “joiner” because it s a joinery system, not a “jointer” which is a machine that makes things flat. Anyway, it s something you can live without but does come in handy. Probably if you don t have one, you won t miss it; but if you buy one you ll find uses for it.

- Woodknack

You’r right.

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WoodenDreams

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#10 posted 03-20-2019 07:42 AM

The festool domino joiner is too pricy in my opinion but a nice tool. There are several ways to join panels which is not as costly. A biscuit joiner I do use to help line up boards and cut slots for table top fasteners (Z-clips). To glue up edges of the boards you don’t need biscuits or dominos. I’d make a list of tools you would like, then number them in priority. The $960 or $1600 for the festool domino joiner could go a long ways to acquire your other tools.

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WoodenDreams

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#11 posted 03-20-2019 07:46 AM

You could make yourself a router table that has the router mounted on its’ side, instead of under the table. walla and router table making your mortises and domino holes.

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therealSteveN

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#12 posted 03-20-2019 08:01 AM

Versus buying either tool, do some woodworking. If you can glue up a flat panel, which isn’t that hard without biscuits, or loose tenons for alignment, your “need” starts to diminish. Depending on what type projects you find yourself doing, you may never have the need. I have had a biscuit joiner for a long time, but it’s hardly ever used. No Domino. For projects I like, M&Ts are done as M&T’s. True Mortise, true tenon.

I can appreciate the Domino for a busy tradesman, or furniture maker. I see it as a toy for a Hobbiest. Relax, enjoy the journey.

“The $960 or $1600 for the festool domino joiner could go a long ways to acquire your other tools.”

Really smart words to a noobie right there.

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Bill Berklich

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#13 posted 03-20-2019 10:17 AM

therealSteveN nails it pretty well. I realize there are proponents and adherents but Festool is just painfully over priced. And you don’t need either unless you are doing production work. The biscuit joint excels at position a face frame and domino at simulating a M&T joint (but so do dowels at a MUCH cheaper cost). But honestly how often are you going to do that? You’re far better off investing the $300/$900/$1600 in other tools that aren’t as specialized and that will give the same or better result.

-- Bill - Rochester MI

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CWWoodworking

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#14 posted 03-20-2019 10:29 AM

Here’s the reason you NEED both- one is 100$ give or take and one does something pretty cool.

So buy the domino and then Dig around in the couch for money to buy the biscuit joiner.

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AlaskaGuy

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#15 posted 03-20-2019 11:17 PM

Like I said above, have both plus I also have a Delta stationary biscuit joiner. I use all 3 but never use any of them for making glued up panels. Don’t really need anything but straight square edges the fit together with no gap and a few good clamps. I can appreciate good tools in any situation. Only 2 things that guide my tool buying is, don’t I want it, and can I afford it. I guess we all have our priorities.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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