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MrFunnyMan

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03-15-2019 11:28 PM

Topic tags/keywords: chisels mortising hand tools chisel

Good afternoon folks,

I purchased a 1/8” mortise chisel from an antique store with the intention of taking it back to my shop and putting it back to work. When I went to sharpen it, the spine has a groove along it’s length.

Can anyone explain why?

Thank you!

David

-- Woodworking: 1/3 planning, 1/3 executing, 1/3 trying to cover up the mistakes made during execution!


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#1 posted 03-15-2019 11:40 PM

Pics would help

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#2 posted 03-16-2019 01:13 AM

I hope this came out okay.

Also, I noticed the manufacturer mark says “The James Swan Co.”

I hope that helps…

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#3 posted 03-16-2019 01:21 AM

Swan is a very reputable maker. All i can think of is that a hollow on the back would help it out of the hole. Less surface friction or somethin.

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Chenier

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#4 posted 03-16-2019 02:55 AM

Perhaps it’s a turning tool rather than a chisel?

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#5 posted 03-16-2019 06:09 AM

1/8” Socket firmer gouge.
Ed. They are firmer for heavier mallet blows, the narrow widths look like mortise chisels on their sides.

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#6 posted 03-16-2019 10:22 AM

Yes Woody it correct. It is a James Swan 1/8” Incannel Paring Gouge. Not to be used for mortising.

-- Andy - Old Chinese proverb says: "If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it."

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#7 posted 03-16-2019 12:29 PM

Thanks guys. I appreciate all the input. That being the case, my search for a 1/8 inch mortising chisel continues!

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#8 posted 03-16-2019 11:23 PM

David,

Here you go with Lee Valley (USA site) for 1/8” Mortising chisels.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=74686&cat=1,41504

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=66737&cat=1,41504

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#9 posted 03-18-2019 02:02 PM

Thanks for all the help guys! I appreciate it!

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#10 posted 03-22-2019 02:03 PM

Andy, it’s called a blood-let. Prevents suction during withdrawal lol.
Seems pretty beefy for an incannel. The groove is a touch asymmetrical but it looks factory to me.
If the groove carries to the tip, it wouldn’t be useful for mortising.
If it’s as fat/long as it looks, wouldn’t be great for carving.
It would be an awkward lathe tool.
Very interesting find from a preferred maker.
I’m jealous.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#11 posted 03-22-2019 03:46 PM

I think that the reason that I picked it up so cheap, is it looks as if the previous owner tried to make it into a mortise chisel and the back of the blade for about 3 inches from the tip has had the groove ground away, and they tried to sharpen the tip. I wish there was a way that I could restore it.

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#12 posted 03-22-2019 05:44 PM



David,

Here you go with Lee Valley (USA site) for 1/8” Mortising chisels.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=74686&cat=1,41504

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=66737&cat=1,41504

- Just_Iain

I own the Narex 1/8” (second link) and enjoy it a lot. I’ve never understood paying the huge $$$ for a chisel :-)

-- Pete

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#13 posted 03-22-2019 06:54 PM


David,

Here you go with Lee Valley (USA site) for 1/8” Mortising chisels.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=74686&cat=1,41504

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=66737&cat=1,41504

- Just_Iain

I own the Narex 1/8” (second link) and enjoy it a lot. I ve never understood paying the huge $$$ for a chisel :-)

- PPK

Thanks Pete! I was looking at those. I couldn’t argue with the idea, that for a couple of bucks more than Veritas was asking for one chisel, I can own the whole set!

If I’m seeing the image correctly, are they plastic handles or some sort of acrylic?

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#14 posted 03-22-2019 07:09 PM

«The stained-beech handles are oval shaped both for good grip and to resist rolling on a work surface, and have steel hoops and ferrules.»

So, beech, not plastic.

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MrFunnyMan

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#15 posted 03-22-2019 07:11 PM



«The stained-beech handles are oval shaped both for good grip and to resist rolling on a work surface, and have steel hoops and ferrules.»

So, beech, not plastic.

- TEK73

Wow! Do I need new glasses or WHAT! Sorry, I missed that in the description, and the picture doesn’t really do it justice. Thanks!

David

-- Woodworking: 1/3 planning, 1/3 executing, 1/3 trying to cover up the mistakes made during execution!

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