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Forum topic by ScottKaye posted 03-13-2019 05:51 PM 794 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ScottKaye

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03-13-2019 05:51 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw blade lenox sterling

So I was all set to place an order for a Lenox 1/2” x 137” 2/3 tpi triple chip carbide bandsaw blade as well as a 1” woodmaster ct 1.3 tpi carbide bandsaw blade. But before I placed my order I called Highland Woodworking to find out who the manufacturer of their blade carbide tipped blades are. They said they had switched from LENOX to Sterling due to too many return issues with the Lenox blades and Lenox not backing their product. From what I understand, Highland had too many customers with too many problems with the blades who returned them to Highland so they made the switched to Sterling and have never looked back I asked the gentleman at Highland what the issues were but he couldn’t provide me with the exact details of the problems and said that was what he was told when he asked. I’ve read some good things about Sterling but haven’t seen anything written or filmed on their carbide blades. Does anyone have RECENT experience with either blade? The blade I’m looking at is the 1/2” x 137 carbide for both brands (tri-master vs Sterling NXT CT). This is the first I’ve heard about issues with Lenox.

Thanks
Scott

-- "Nothing happens until you build it"


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therealSteveN

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#1 posted 03-13-2019 06:33 PM

I have found I like the Woodmaster CT for a carbide resaw blade.

These guys buy just the stock, and weld their own. Maybe not the lowest price out there, but the weld quality is very very good. The premade Lennox, it was welds where they fell down. My size blade is welded at their shop in Cleveland, so I am also supporting Ohio workers. I figure that is worth a few cents for me.

I have also been happy with my purchases from Spectrum on other BS blades.

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#2 posted 03-13-2019 06:59 PM

Spectrum Supply is the shop I was planning on using for my Lenox purchase before I ran into the Highland hiccup. Now it’s starting to all come together for me and make sense. I specifically asked Highland if they welded thier own blades and they said they don’t and get them pre-welded from their supplier. I’m actually surprised that Lenox of all places is having issues with their own welds. You would think a bandsaw blade manufacturer would get this right, maybe it’s just a volume thing and their quality suffers? ok. back to plan A. 1/2” x 137” 2/3 tpi Tri-Master carbide blade as a general purpose straight line and gentle curve blade and one 1” x 137” (2.0 tpi or 1.3 tpi recommendations here?) Lenox Woodmaster CT as a resaw blade!

thanks

Scott

ps, I have a mid 80’s Delta/Rockwell 14” with a 1/4” blade for my fine curve cutting!

-- "Nothing happens until you build it"

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#3 posted 03-13-2019 08:13 PM

Scott what size bandsaw are you planning on using with those blades. 16 inch?

-- Aj

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#4 posted 03-13-2019 08:22 PM


Scott what size bandsaw are you planning on using with those blades. 16 inch?

- Aj2

I have a Jet JWBS 18x upgraded but still square tube bandsaw. From what I understand Jet claimed to have fixed the deflection issue over the previous saw but it was only a slight improvement. They spec the saw capable of using a 1 1/2” blade but the most I will ever put on it is a 1” blade. I upgraded to Carter bearings and those bearings only allow a 1 1/4” blade but because of the deflection issue, I will keep my blades maxed to an inch.

Scott

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#5 posted 03-13-2019 09:15 PM

Sounds good just wanted to make sure you knew about that before you bought a expensive blade.
It’s also good to note the thickness of the band.
I like the resaw king. Its a great resaw saw blade and a jointery blade.
Good luck

-- Aj

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#6 posted 03-13-2019 10:45 PM

I m actually surprised that Lenox of all places is having issues with their own welds. You would think a bandsaw blade manufacturer would get this right, maybe it s just a volume thing and their quality suffers?

I ran into a slew of problems with MK Morse. Welds, teeth not altered, etc. I believe everyone goes through quality issues. It’s how they react and rectify the problem.

They did not take care of the problem and basically lied to me and my supplier. So needless to say they lost my business forever. And I bought from them almost monthly.

I now use Starrett.

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#7 posted 03-14-2019 03:51 AM

Carbide band saw blades are over rated and over priced. HSS blades are all I would use for any bandsaw operation. TPI being the factor ie; resaw or any cutting.

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#8 posted 03-14-2019 11:31 AM

Try cutting Osage Orange with a HHS blade.

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#9 posted 03-14-2019 10:01 PM



Carbide band saw blades are over rated and over priced. HSS blades are all I would use for any bandsaw operation. TPI being the factor ie; resaw or any cutting.

- bgood

Nah, they are expensive, but do a great job, I have no complaints about them at all.

No drift, leave a great surface. Don’t care what you are cutting unless really wet wood.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#10 posted 03-15-2019 12:38 PM

I’ve used Lennox Woodmaster CT in 1 1/4” @ 1.3TPI and their Woodmaster Csteel blades in the same dimensions as well, all ordered from Spectrum Supply. I prefer the Woodmaster C as when I hit metal, the blade is gone regardless if it’s a $30 blade or a $100 blade, in fact I’m more likely to be able to get the Woodmaster C resharpened, whereas once the carbide teeth are broken from the blade, it’s not cost effective to have new ones brazed back on. The CT does offer a better cut quaility but not significantly enough for me to justify the difference in price. The surface left by both blades willl require quite a bit of sanding. The steel band itself is a limiting factor as if I get a Woodmaster C sharpened 4 times, it will likely break after the fourth sharpening, never at an opportune time. I sharpen them only three times then recycle them when dull and needing a fourth as it’s the end of the lift cycle for the band. I have a 3hp 20” Grizzly bandsaw that I’m using these on and more often than not it’s being used to resaw something >12” thick which I have tried on a 14” saw with a riser but would not recommend, you simply can’t get a heavy enough blade to follow a 7” radius for long before failure nor can you properly tension such a blade with a 14” cast iron frame saw.

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