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Forum topic by DaDijionDon posted 03-08-2019 08:19 AM 3012 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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DaDijionDon

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03-08-2019 08:19 AM

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I snagged a Freud 3 ¼ horse router at a pawn shop for 100$ after reading mostly positive reviews.. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of this router vis-à-vis mounting it on a (Kreg) router table?? Because it seems to me like it’s a hunk of crap. Fully maxed on height it barely puts smaller bits above table height. Even worse, the opening, if you manage to navigate the razor sharp edges and attempt to install a 2 ½ ” bit… The opening is too small. Freud’s own router bits don’t fit into Freud’s largest model of router!!! Wtf… Am I missing something, like say, removing the motor from the plunge base somehow? Or should I return this asap and be happy with my bosch 2¼ hp?

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#1 posted 03-08-2019 11:38 AM

I put a 1/2” grommet at the bottom of the collet to cushion the bit when tightening the bit. Doing that you should gai a little more height. I like my Bosch router, Triton router and porter cable 690 mounted at one time or another in my Kreg router table.

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#2 posted 03-08-2019 11:46 AM

Probably over 20 years ago I had that router in my RT. Back then lifts were fairly uncommon, and most folk chose a plunge router. At that time Wood magazine rated this one best in a review for table use, so I sprang for it. It served me quite well for over 10 years. Eventually I put a Woodpecker’s plungelift on it and finally sold it and the lift as I moved up to a PRL. Anyway, what you describe is what most folks found…..there are better options. While I never worried about above the table bit changes (I didn’t think it was much hassle) I was upset about not being able to use the largest panels raisers. I think because the router was considered a hand use router, the largest bits shouldn’t be used in it anyway so Freud didn’t give it a thought (again, that’s what I think). But I cut those ears off, allowing me to use the large bits. No big deal, just use a jig saw with a metal blade. You can’t easily remove the router from the plunge base, but you can pull it out of the table to change bits. I’m not familiar with the Kreg setup so can’t offer an opinion on that…but should you chose to stay with that router also consider removing the springs in the legs. I cut one in 1/2, and put the 1/2 spring back in. I dn’t remember the details but somehow it made use a little easier. Or, take it back. I wound up buying 2, and still have the second one for the occasional use when I need the a very large hand held router.

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d38

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#3 posted 03-08-2019 01:46 PM

Interesting. I think my router is the previous, but very similar model that is light blue, Freud Ft2000?
I have it mounted on an Incra top w/ their plate, and can get Roman Ogee bits to full height.
I took the black plastic off the bottom of the router, and also removed the springs as Fred mentioned above (google will find instructions).
I am close to the travel limit but I’ve been able to set up all the bits I need.
Don’t know if removing the plunge springs will give you more travel, but its worth a try.

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#4 posted 03-08-2019 02:23 PM

That is a pretty old router. I had one mounted in my router table in the mid ‘90s, and had some of the same problems. I used it until I sold it in 2017; but had relegated it to 3rd place backup to my other two Incra tables with Woodpeckers PRLs and Porter Cable 7518 motors. I do not think that that router was designed to be mounted in a table, and was primarily for handheld use. But we all make due with what we have. I would be happy with your Bosch router and take the dinosaur back. Not being judgmental, but IMHO $100 was too much dough for this router. Good luck, have fun and work safely

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#5 posted 03-08-2019 02:27 PM

I finally found an photo I took of how things looked after I cut the ears off my FT2000. You can see the bit in the photo is about the same one in the pic above….and now the limit is the insert itself. BTW, I agree with what woodbum said…that ws too much to pay.

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#6 posted 03-09-2019 01:19 AM

Did you feel you needed the 3.5hp for the work you are doing? My PC and my 1617 both seem to handle those big panel cutting bits without bogging down. $100 is a bit spendy since you can snag a used PC or Bosch for less but then again if you need the HP for some reason you can probably find something on CL that will be more HP and fit the lift better. Nothing wrong with the router but it doesn’t look “lift friendly” with that rectangular body.

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#7 posted 01-20-2021 08:29 PM

Fred.
Harkening to the past picture and comments, what size was the panel router bit shown mounted in table with the ft2000. Did you trim metal on the router enough to accommodate a 3.5 inch Quadra bit? It looks like it would require trimming the sides about 1/2 inch in addition to the “ears”. I have the larger bit I’d like to mount.
Thanks

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#8 posted 01-20-2021 09:34 PM

I’ll have to check tomorrow when I’m back in the shop. I’ll post back.

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#9 posted 01-20-2021 10:30 PM

Back when they were selling in the US Freud also sold router fences, and lifts. But none of the routers worked well with the big bits. I have 2 of the Freud routers, and a fence, never bought the lift. I always used those routers hand held, but that Fence is one I dearly love. When I bought them I assumed they would play well together, and the literature says up to 3 1/2”, making that so would require some changes I never did make.

As a handheld router I would put it up against an Elu, or the DeWalt 625, a big workhorse motor. on a plunge base. For me the controls worked fine, weight I always thought was better balanced than a 625, and changing bits wasn’t an ordeal, like I have found on the bigger Bosch routers.

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#10 posted 01-21-2021 06:43 PM



Fred.
Harkening to the past picture and comments, what size was the panel router bit shown mounted in table with the ft2000. Did you trim metal on the router enough to accommodate a 3.5 inch Quadra bit? It looks like it would require trimming the sides about 1/2 inch in addition to the “ears”. I have the larger bit I’d like to mount.
Thanks

- Richxg


OK, that bit you see mounted in the router in the pic (post#5) is the 3 1/2” Quadra cut (Freud 99516). I had some pics roter base and how it looked after I cut it, but I can no longer find them. I know it looked a mess after I was done; but it worked quite well.

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#11 posted 01-21-2021 06:51 PM

Your turret stop isn’t limiting the plunge depth is it?

Those routers have sleeves on the posts but that still probably doesn’t preclude rust on the posts which could be in the way of it plunging properly. They vary I’m sure but I think plunge routers in general are fairly easy to take apart.

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#12 posted 01-21-2021 08:29 PM

Fred
Thanks for checking, I know it will take a fair amount of force so your positive experience using they both after hacking away is helpful. It looks like enough of the supporting structure will remain, but we won’t be entering any beauty contests. BTW, a very pretty crown to your cabinet, thinking I might try to do similar with the knock down wardrobe I’m building.
Rich

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