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NCMau

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03-07-2019 04:18 PM

New turner. Just started to get my feet wet in this new hobby. I am looking to buy a chuck for my 12” Delta but I need some help in clarification of two chuck types that I am looking in eBay:

www.ebay.com/itm/Nova-Lathes-23055-SuperNOVA2-Wood-Turning-Chuck-Insert-Type-New/331745378847

www.ebay.com/itm/Nova-Lathes-48202-G3-Wood-Turning-Chuck-Insert-Type-New/332529788065

The difference in price between the 23055 and 48202 is $30. Can anybody the difference and if the more expensive one is worth the $30 more?

-- Maury, NC


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LesB

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#1 posted 03-07-2019 05:25 PM

To begin, Rockler on line store has the G-3 for $109 You might go to their web site for a better comparison of the details on each chuck to see which one you prefer. Their description is far better than those on the ebay sites. I have two SuperNovas with several different jaw sets and they work great.

Either chuck will do the job but you also need to add the threaded insert for mounting on your lathe and in a short time you will probably want to get additional jaw sets.

If you go to my blog on chuck mounting I show how to use a router to prepare the blanks for mounting on a chuck.

-- Les B, Oregon

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MrUnix

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#2 posted 03-07-2019 05:34 PM

G3 is recommended for lathes up to 14” swing.
SN2 is recommended for lathes from 14-20” swing.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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Dustin

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#3 posted 03-07-2019 05:57 PM

I have a G3 on my Delta 46-460 and love it. I’ll move up to the Supernova when I upgrade to a full size lathe, but until then, the G3 does everything I want.

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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#4 posted 03-07-2019 06:27 PM

I spent many years putting bowl blanks on faceplates. You will not regret switching to a 4-jaw chuck. I usually form the mounting recess by mounting the blank between spindle centers.

-- Phil Allin - There are woodworkers and people who collect woodworking tools. The woodworkers have a chair to sit on that they made.

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MrUnix

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#5 posted 03-07-2019 06:31 PM

I was going to mention the Barracuda2 package, as that has been about the best bang for the buck for quite a while – chuck w/4 jaw sets (#1,#2,#3 and pin), woodworm screw, direct thread 1×8 along with 3/4-16 insert all packed in a nice case for $139. HOWEVER – I just got the PSI catalog yesterday and didn’t see it in there. Sure enough, they no longer offer that bundle, as it’s gone missing online as well :(

You may be able to find some still available in stock (like this set on amazon), but they will most likely be more expensive and gone from the supply chain pretty quick (search for CSC3000C).

There is also a G3 30th Anniversary Bundle out there at the moment that is sort of similar… three jaw sets, a woodworm screw and nice case. The prices all seem to have gone up significantly within the last year or so
unfortunately.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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NCMau

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#6 posted 03-07-2019 06:34 PM

That’s exactly what I needed to know. G3 here I come. and LesB…yes it is 10 bucks cheaper. Thanks!

One more question, if I may. There is an insert on eBay that I need for $11 vs the $26 in other places. They claim is for the Nova system. Just wonder because Nova claims that the insert is proprietary

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-for-Chuck-Insert-Adaptor-1-8TPI-Thread-Nova-Lathes-IDNS/232942084577

-- Maury, NC

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NCMau

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#7 posted 03-07-2019 07:18 PM

Also I have ordered some carbide tips, made the holder with 1/2” rod and handles. The holder from the top of the handle measures 8-1/2” and with the handle, the tool measures a total of 18-1/2”.

I have used it few times but I don’t know enough to tell if it is too long or not. I see tool images online and most of them are shorter than what I have. The tool is not epoxied to the handle yet, so it would not be a problem for me to cut the rod shorter.

What is you opinion?

-- Maury, NC

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KelleyCrafts

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#8 posted 03-07-2019 07:44 PM



Also I have ordered some carbide tips, made the holder with 1/2” rod and handles. The holder from the top of the handle measures 8-1/2” and with the handle, the tool measures a total of 18-1/2”.

I have used it few times but I don’t know enough to tell if it is too long or not. I see tool images online and most of them are shorter than what I have. The tool is not epoxied to the handle yet, so it would not be a problem for me to cut the rod shorter.

What is you opinion?

- NCMau

Depends on what you’re turning. Longer handles IMO are better. I make mine so the total length of the tool is about 23.5”. I like that, I have spots for hands in two places so you can choke up on the tool or get the low leverage.

Small detail work is better with a smaller tool, so that can be handy as well.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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LesB

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#9 posted 03-08-2019 12:34 AM

One more question, if I may. There is an insert on eBay that I need for $11 vs the $26 in other places. They claim is for the Nova system. Just wonder because Nova claims that the insert is proprietary

One difference I see is that Nova insert has a set screw for locking the insert in place. If the off brand one does not you could add you own (drill and tap) or use a liquid screw set. Once installed it is not some thing you are going to change unless you change lathes.

-- Les B, Oregon

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NCMau

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#10 posted 03-08-2019 02:44 AM

Drill and tap would not be a problem. Thanks.

-- Maury, NC

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hookup

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#11 posted 03-08-2019 02:48 AM



One more question, if I may. There is an insert on eBay that I need for $11 vs the $26 in other places. They claim is for the Nova system. Just wonder because Nova claims that the insert is proprietary

One difference I see is that Nova insert has a set screw for locking the insert in place. If the off brand one does not you could add you own (drill and tap) or use a liquid screw set. Once installed it is not some thing you are going to change unless you change lathes.

- LesB


the set screw is only used if your lathe has reverse

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Phil32

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#12 posted 03-08-2019 02:51 AM

The two inserts I bought with my Nova chuck (so I can use it on two different lathes) do not have set screws, so the one you saw on eBay could have a similar origin.

-- Phil Allin - There are woodworkers and people who collect woodworking tools. The woodworkers have a chair to sit on that they made.

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LeeMills

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#13 posted 03-08-2019 03:54 AM

You may want to consider the special edition set mentioned before.
You will probably want or need larger and smaller jaws shortly down the road.
The $165 (should be no tax and free shipping) is a good deal to me since your lathe is 1X8. You will not need an insert since it is direct threades. Each of the jaws sets would run you $50+ each down the road.
https://www.tools-plus.com/nova-lathes-48246.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0cbmttDx4AIVk4CfCh3ZIwjHEAQYASABEgL_zvD_BwE

I have seven Nova’s, four of which are G3’s and never had a problem with any.

-- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

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LesB

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#14 posted 03-08-2019 05:39 PM

The above is a good find and a great price. I had forgot that the two I have came as a full set like that.

-- Les B, Oregon

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AndyJ1s

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#15 posted 03-09-2019 03:52 PM

The set screw on the adapter also helps prevent your work+chuck from dismounting if your lathe stops rapidly when you turn it off, but that often only occurs on lathes that also happen to be able to reverse.

Just something to keep in mind, even if you never expect to run your lathe in reverse (e.g. for sanding, and/or safer use of files and rasps while turning.)

Andy

-- Andy - Arlington TX

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