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Forum topic by bobd67 posted 03-04-2019 05:08 PM 494 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bobd67

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03-04-2019 05:08 PM

I’m considering buying the Grizzly G1021Z wood planer. I don’t do a lot of wood working at present. I would like to harvest some of the trees on my land and have them cut into usable lumber. I have about 50 acres of Walnut, hickory, white, black and red oak. A nearby mill can saw the trees for me at little cost. For my purposes I can’t justify the added cost of the spiral cutterhead. If need be I can always do the upgrade in the future. I was wondering if anyone has experience with this particular planer.


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CaptainKlutz

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#1 posted 03-30-2019 11:39 AM

LOL,
Is the G1021z any good?
Not many will know, as I am sure you can tell by lack of responses?
Hate to see you hang, so here is more than you had before I posted:

Grizzly discontinued the Taiwan made planers and moved everything to China many years ago. The US tariffs forced them to restart Taiwan tool production with new G1021 part numbers, and freshened option list. They didn’t start shipping the G1021z until last November.

FWIW –
The G1021 15” planer design has been sold by most every major wood working mfg for decades. The Taiwan produced tool started production back in 80’s as clone of Delta industrial planers (like US made RC-33). Even Delta hired the same mfg that Grizzly uses to make planers for them for short while in the last century. The current Taiwan produced Grizzly, Shop Fox, Jet, Powermatic, and Oliver 15” planers all come from same factories, using many of same molds and parts. If you buy any one of them; it either works well, or you get a lemon and waste time dealing with warranty issues. This is because the original Delta design worked well.
Hence, part of answer is how well does Grizzly support new equipment?
Suggest you can read about Grizzly in the reviews section.

Making the wood working planer mfg shell game even more challenging: Chiu Ting Machinery Company has factories in both Taiwan and China. They built/partnered with China plants to help reduce mfg cost and be competitive. As a result all of the newTaiwan produced tools they produce are using China produced cast iron parts. So even if you buy a tool labeled as mfg in Taiwan, all you can really say is assembled in Taiwan.

The 50,000 foot view on planer mfg is pretty simple. There are two major conglomerates that produce majority of 15” & 20” planers in market. All of the tools work about same. The big differences between models are:
- Cutter head design (Different shellix carbide insert size/qty or straight .vs. segmented spiral blade)
- Color/cabinet/look
- Motor/starter package
- Warranty coverage
There are posts here on LJ covering these differences if you search for 15” planer information.

Hope this helps. If it doesn’t, ignore me.

Remember half of everything you see on WWW is not true. Hard part is figuring out which half you want to believe. :-)

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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Rob Vicelli

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#2 posted 03-30-2019 12:21 PM

Bobd67, While not the G1021, I recently purchased a Grizzly G0454 (20” regular blade). The regular blades leave a good finish that requires a quick sand with the ROS. Unfortunately, I had a pressure bar that had a bow I saw during setup. Grizzly CS sent a quick replacement. While this is not OK, it is the nature of the transaction. I also have the 8” Grizzly Spiral head jointer which does leave an excellent finish (still gets hit with the Ros though). I am currently happy with planer and after some time adjusting and learning the machine’s personality , have eliminated any visible snipe.

Grizzly, like most manufacturers, can be hit or miss. What Grizzly has going there way with me anyway is their excellent tech support and customer service to resolve any issues you may have.

-- Rob V

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bobd67

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#3 posted 03-30-2019 12:25 PM

Interesting information Thanks for your input.

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Tmanpdx

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#4 posted 03-30-2019 10:49 PM

What CaptainKlutz said.

I’d recommend waiting for a 20” 4-post planer (the best deal will be on the no-name “20 planer”) on craigslist, buying the helical head for it and install it yourself. You should be able to get the planer for $800-$1,000 and the head will set you back $1,100. I just did this myself and it was a good way to learn the machine and save about $3K.

15” is OK, but if you have access to so many species, I’m betting most of your lumber will be closer to 20” than 15”.

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CaptainKlutz

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#5 posted 03-31-2019 06:37 AM

+1 go big!

If we are making recommendations, and you own forest full of timber and plan to machine acres of wood,
YES – go big. Big can be cheap in used market.
Example:
For last 2 months we have had a 24” antique Newman planer on CL. Currently marked down to only $1350.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/tls/d/carefree-wood-planer-24/6810712333.html

If I had the space available, would have bought it last month when it was priced even higher. :-)

Cheers!

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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