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Prizen

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02-24-2019 10:50 PM

Hi all

I’ve a Mafell tracksaw and have an MFT style top on the way, with some bench dogs. But that’s about it at the moment in terms of equipment.

For somebody who wishes to work with sheet materials such as plywood, what tools are recommended for building furniture, cabinets, loudspeaker cabinets, interior shelving etc?

Thanks


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#1 posted 02-24-2019 11:06 PM

not being funny, 1 good tape measure, and always use the same one,

A good pencil and some way to shapen it.

From then on tools as you want or need them.

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#2 posted 02-25-2019 12:08 AM

Vertical panel saw and krieg pocket hole machine.

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#3 posted 02-25-2019 12:09 AM

Sheet goods are just big boards until you cut them down. If you have a track saw then that problem is solved. So you need the basic shop tools if you’re saying that the track saw is the only tool you have.

Table saw, router, bandsaw, miter saw…etc. But there are so many types and styles of each to chose from. Then lots of jigs for those tools for repeatable cuts and processes like router circle jigs for making speaker cabs. Then bits and blades to make circles and dado cuts etc. You’re gonna need some hand tools like planes etc. If you are truly starting from scratch then you might want to look at pre-owned tools unless you have an unlimited budget. Also need to consider how you are going to join the boards that you cut. There is everything from pocket hole joints to dovetails.

If all you plan on using are sheet goods then you can probably skip a jointer and planer for now.

This is a really hard question to answer. You need to outfit a shop but most people acquire tools, bits and blades as they need them.

Do you plan on opening a cabinet shop and doing production work? That Mafell saw and MFT table are not what I’d call essential tools but they sure are nice if that is your plan, but you could buy a lot of tools that you really need for the $ you spent on them.

You’ll figure out what you need as you start to build stuff. At the very least you’ll want a hybrid table saw if not a cabinet saw.

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#4 posted 02-25-2019 12:11 AM

The track saw is a very good start but I find that a table saw is faster and easier for ripping lots of narrow pieces in rapid succession. I use both regularly. Depending on your application, I suggest a Kreg pocket screw jig. It isn’t the strongest joint you can build and it isn’t pretty but you can make strong utilitarian stuff like cabinets and work tables much faster than other forms of joinery. If you are going to build cabinets, you will need cabinet clamps.

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CWWoodworking

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#5 posted 02-25-2019 12:13 AM

Wow, just looked up what a maffel saw was. If your not working in the field, get a beginner vertical instead of track saw. Much more efficient.

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#6 posted 02-25-2019 12:19 AM



Vertical panel saw and krieg pocket hole machine.

- CWWoodworking


I don’t think he wants to start a cabinet shop so these are probably not something a beginner needs right now.kreg pocket holes are great for sheet goods but I wouldn’t spend the bucks on the machine just get the much cheaper jig,as said a track saw will do most of your cuts on big sheets,but let the projects you do take you to the tools you need.i say buy as needed don’t buy a lot of tools you may never use.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#7 posted 02-25-2019 12:27 AM


,but let the projects you do take you to the tools you need.i say buy as needed don t buy a lot of tools you may never use.

- pottz

+1 Decide what your first project is. It will quickly tell you what you need. Don’t take this the wrong way but it probably isn’t gonna tell you you need a $900 track saw to start with but it is gonna tell you you need lots of clamps. Once you cut the sheets down the rest of your cuts are gonna be on a table saw.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#8 posted 02-25-2019 01:13 AM

For me it’s the price. I think the better track saws are $1000-1500?

A beginner vertical is about $2500.

I don’t know the if the OP is willing to make that jump, but if they are, they will never regret it.

I know the verticals in this price range have mixed bag of reviews. All I can saw is that I love mine and it will out perform a track saw 10 fold for square boxes.

I have a tv stand that takes almost exactly 1 sheet of plywood. 9 panels total. Just a few scraps left here and there. The sheet never leaves the saw. You just kinda roll it around, flip it and out pops a stand 5 minutes later. It’s awesome.

For something that isn’t crazy money difference, it’s something to consider.

And you guys crack me up with “let the project dictate the tool”. In another thread talking about having 2 jointers. Lol

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#9 posted 02-25-2019 02:43 AM



For me it’s the price. I think the better track saws are $1000-1500?

A beginner vertical is about $2500.

I don’t know the if the OP is willing to make that jump, but if they are, they will never regret it.

I know the verticals in this price range have mixed bag of reviews. All I can saw is that I love mine and it will out perform a track saw 10 fold for square boxes.

I have a tv stand that takes almost exactly 1 sheet of plywood. 9 panels total. Just a few scraps left here and there. The sheet never leaves the saw. You just kinda roll it around, flip it and out pops a stand 5 minutes later. It’s awesome.

For something that isn’t crazy money difference, it’s something to consider.

And you guys crack me up with “let the project dictate the tool”. In another thread talking about having 2 jointers. Lol

- CWWoodworking


It’s becoming more and more clear that you were being very honest when you said you were “Self Taught”.

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#10 posted 02-25-2019 04:00 AM


For me it’s the price. I think the better track saws are $1000-1500?

A beginner vertical is about $2500.

I don’t know the if the OP is willing to make that jump, but if they are, they will never regret it.

I know the verticals in this price range have mixed bag of reviews. All I can saw is that I love mine and it will out perform a track saw 10 fold for square boxes.

I have a tv stand that takes almost exactly 1 sheet of plywood. 9 panels total. Just a few scraps left here and there. The sheet never leaves the saw. You just kinda roll it around, flip it and out pops a stand 5 minutes later. It’s awesome.

For something that isn’t crazy money difference, it’s something to consider.

And you guys crack me up with “let the project dictate the tool”. In another thread talking about having 2 jointers. Lol

- CWWoodworking

It s becoming more and more clear that you were being very honest when you said you were “Self Taught”.

- AlaskaGuy


yeah in what fairy land?
so you make a tv stand and it takes a whole sheet of plywood?
and a track saw costs a minimum of 2500 dollars?
dude you need to stop the meds before they stop you=LOL.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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Prizen

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#11 posted 02-25-2019 04:22 AM

Thanks all. I’m in Europe so Mafell has better availability and pricing. However, we pay a lot more for the same quality in the USA when it comes to Table saws. This influenced my choice on the track saw, but also some have said that getting the track saw + MFT/bench dogs and fences with flag stops covers a mitre saw tablesaw and bandsaw (except curves) when working with sheet goods

My guess is clamps and a good router to be next on the list, or at least that was what I was thinking.

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#12 posted 02-25-2019 04:28 AM



Thanks all. I m in Europe so Mafell has better availability and pricing. However, we pay a lot more for the same quality in the USA when it comes to Table saws. This influenced my choice on the track saw, but also some have said that getting the track saw + MFT/bench dogs and fences with flag stops covers a mitre saw tablesaw and bandsaw (except curves) when working with sheet goods My guess is clamps and a good router to be next on the list, or at least that was what I was thinking.

- Prizen


a router wil serve you well for many uses for a modest investment.you wont regret buying one.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#13 posted 02-25-2019 04:47 AM

The track saw will allow all the cuts you could think of on plywood. The MFT design makes that easier. Next you need a way to join pieces. and for plywood many many folks over here go with a Kreg jig, making pocket holes, and a router can get edges, some other joints, and a whole lot of work done. It would be a next move one way or the other.

The best advice on your next tool is when you need something done, that none of your tools can do it. Go online and look at options, once you get a tool type, the internet is your buying friend over here, not sure if it works the same over there.

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#14 posted 02-25-2019 05:08 AM

A Festool Domino or a Mafell duo doweller

Best of luck!

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#15 posted 02-25-2019 12:28 PM



Thanks all. I m in Europe so Mafell has better availability and pricing.

- Prizen

I

Thanks changes things a bit. I dont know much about the erou market on verticals. I would imagine they have an entry level company.

Couple things that haven’t been mentioned that would also need to be addressed is edgebanding and hole drilling for shelves.

For edge banding I prefer solid wood strips glued on and pinned. There are also peel and stick banding out there. Have used it a few times with decent success. Its not perfect though.

Hole drilling can be done pretty effectively with jigs.

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