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Mainboom

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02-23-2019 03:05 AM

So I decided to go kinda cheap and picked up a jet 1221 step pully lathe. its brand new and was only 420.00 bucks. I wasn’t sure about the step pully but for that price I can deal with it. I saved like 400 compaired to the vs 1221. I got a nova g3 chuck set with it. I have to wait on the stand because its 300 bucks. I did join a club and got to turn there and was hooked. made my first bowl was told it wasn’t bad for a first try. im not able to turn there during the week due to work and hours its open

So I have a lathe, tools, and a chuck coming. I already have wood. I have a vs speed grinder and have a 120 grit wheel coming. sand paper is covered.

what else am I missing ? grinding jig ? I have seen the raptors and the wolverines which is better ?

Also when I turned at the club after I turned my bowl I polished it with something starting with a T then white diamond and then wax. Whats the T anyone know? I cant remember.

thanks

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Lazyman

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#1 posted 02-23-2019 03:36 AM

Welcome to the club. It can be pretty addictive. If you are going to turn bowls, You will want some sort of jig to make that easy. The Wolverine jig is probably the one most people use but you can make your own jig if you want to save a few bucks. Captain Eddie Castelan has some good sharpening videos, including making a jig for sharpening a thumbnail gouge.

Which tools did you get? Carbide tools can be nice to have, though you’ll generally get a better finish off the tool with HSS tools.

The finishing system you are describing sounds like the Beall buffing system. Just google that and you will see lots of places that sell it. I think that you use Tripoli ,diamond, and carnuba wax on three different buffing wheels. I understand you can get pretty nice finish with that but I personally like using a Friction finish to get a nice and easy high gloss finish.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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Mainboom

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#2 posted 02-23-2019 03:46 AM

I just bought the cheap psi tools the 8 piece set. I did buy a wolverine after I posted this.

By friction finish do you mean putting say Danish oil on and rub it in while its turning till it gets hot?
I did that then used that ball buffing system. Honestly I couldnt see to much of a differance after using the buffing system. But Tripoli was what it was I think I’ll check it out.

-- CRANE OPERATORS START EARLY because iron workers need their heros ready when they wake up

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#3 posted 02-23-2019 04:11 AM

The friction finish I use is Hut Crystal Coat which I think is Danish Oil, Shellac and Wax, though I am not certain. I think Mylands Friction Finish may be similar. You wipe on the piece and then buff it out with the lathe turning until it gets warm.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#4 posted 02-23-2019 11:51 AM

Raptor set up tools don’t really need them if buy a wolverine system. Not sure if work with other systems out there.

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/95/5188/Raptor-Set-Up-Tools

What you really need if don’t have one:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Empire-Stainless-Steel-Protractor-27912/202035326

You want to know the bevel angle before you sharpen your tools and after re-sharpening.

Prices usually the same for Wolverine systems but some are higher than others. There are a lot of diferent sharpening systems out today and all should give you repeatabiility at the grinder. I prefer wolverine because still use it today.

Basic system + vari-grind jig about all you need.
http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=packard&Product_Code=142611&Category_Code=sharp-wss

Intermediate system if need a diamond wheel dreser+ vari grind jig.
http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=packard&Product_Code=142629&Category_Code=sharp-wss

Everything want to know about friction finishes:
http://www.woodcentral.com/russ/finish10.shtml

There are lot more friction finishing product out today but procedures the same.

-- Bill

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Lazyman

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#5 posted 02-23-2019 01:04 PM

I found this recipe for making our own friction finish just about a week ago. This guy recommends leaving the wax out that is in most of the commercial mixes and using a dewaxed shellac so that you can apply other types of finishes on top of it if you want. You can always apply wax afterwards. If nothing else it will probably be a lot cheaper than the Hut or Mylands options, though you use so little that even the small Hut bottle lasts a long time.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#6 posted 02-23-2019 09:55 PM

Bought a Oneway 24/36 a couple of years ago with lots of options, have only made two rough bowls and a couple of pens with it so far. Wish I had bought a CNC machine instead.

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Mainboom

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#7 posted 02-24-2019 12:27 AM



Bought a Oneway 24/36 a couple of years ago with lots of options, have only made two rough bowls and a couple of pens with it so far. Wish I had bought a CNC machine instead.

- Steve


you can always sell the lathe and buy a CNC.

-- CRANE OPERATORS START EARLY because iron workers need their heros ready when they wake up

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#8 posted 02-24-2019 08:18 AM

Bought a Oneway 24/36 a couple of years ago with lots of options, have only made two rough bowls and a couple of pens with it so far.
- Steve

Those were some really (really, really) expensive bowls/pens!

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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