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02-12-2019 05:31 PM |
Topic tags/keywords: sketchup Hello, I am a total begginer in woodworking and this question may sound stupid, but i hope i will get an answer :) I am planning to create some easy furniture (begin with chairs, then tables and beds and finish with cabinets or maybe a tiny cabin) maybe there is other alternatives for begginers, that costs less than sketchup pro? thanks for your time and answers, |
28 replies so far
#1 posted 02-12-2019 06:05 PM |
I’m a bit of a Luddite. I’ve been making things out of wood for over 40 years and have never used anything more than paper and pencil. Quadrille graph paper and a clear straightedge work great. A set of french curves and a compass fills out the kit. -- Sawdust Maker |
#2 posted 02-12-2019 06:32 PM |
Start with the free version. Buy pro if you decide the dynamic components and DXF import/export functions are necessary. -- See my work at http://altaredesign.com |
#3 posted 02-12-2019 07:03 PM |
I’ve used Sketchup for many years now (almost 20!); the Pro version. For woodworking design, I believe I have NEVER absolutely needed a feature that was only was available in Pro. The product has changed recently. Sketchup Free is now a web-based product, not software you run on your desktop. Regardless, it pretty much does what it always did. I recommend that you start with Free and move to Pro only if absolutely have to, and I’m guessing that time will never come. -- Jim Maher, Illinois |
#4 posted 02-12-2019 07:32 PM |
+ on the Free version. Unless you want to be a CAD designer. The free version will get you everything you need to create basic drawings and details needed for any project you will tackle as a beginner. I will say that Pencil and Paper sketches are pretty quick and easy though. I only use Sketchup for more complex things. -- Bill - Rochester MI |
#5 posted 02-12-2019 08:16 PM |
I’ve used Sketchup for several years also; the free versions. I’ve heard people complain about the new web version, but I haven’t gotten to it yet. Still using one of the older desktop versions. Works well and haven’t found anything I need to do that it can’t do…. |
#6 posted 02-12-2019 08:35 PM |
You can still download previous versions that do run locally and not on the web. -- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner |
#7 posted 02-12-2019 11:22 PM |
Same here. -- A bad day woodworking is still better than a good day working. |
#8 posted 02-13-2019 03:11 PM |
Mimas, Recently CharlesA posted a thread about Fusion 360 see it here which is also free for the student/hobbyist level and is reportedly superior to SU and I intend to download it soon and check it out. -- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it |
#9 posted 02-13-2019 03:24 PM |
Mimas asked this question as a very first post, and hasn’t commented again, on anything. Thus, he (she) is likely already gone from LJ. However, I wanted to chime in with two other things. First is another vote for using a quadrille pad and pencils. (I do not classify woodworking and software applications as the same hobby or skill.) Second is that I personally find these phrases to be quite disparate, and the combination of them to be … , shall we say, interesting: -- Jim, Houston, TX |
#10 posted 02-13-2019 04:51 PM |
+1 On looking at Fusion 360 from Autodesk. It seems to have more features and may also be better for CNC from what I have read. It is totally free for hobbiest and it doesn’t limit features. I use Sketchup but wish I had started the F360. They are just different enough that it is hard to go back and forth without compounding the frustration. Sketchup Free will handle 99% of what most hobbiest and DIYer want to do. When you activated the free version, they usually give you 30 days of access to the Pro features so you can basically try before you buy. Having said all that, as a beginner, I would first try getting some plans, especially for furniture, and making those before trying to jump into designing it yourself. You really need to learn the woodworking before you jump into designing. Also note that there is a learning curve for both Sketchup and F360 you have to master before you will be able to design anything, much less furniture with complex joinery. Learn the woodworking first! If you are looking for some good designs that a beginner can handle, I would look at Woodsmith magazine. They sell individual plans but a better option may be to buy their back issue library. You can search and browse the online library here. It is a good magazine for beginners and the plans, IMO, are a great way to learn the skills needed to do each one. They have lots off good info on the techniques and tools needed to make their plans. BTW, don’t fall for the “Ted’s woodworking plans” scam. As you are searching for plans you are bound to come across that at some point. I personally would also avoid plans from Ana White. From the few that I have looked at, they look to me like they were designed by someone who hasn’t learned woodworking yet. -- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way. |
#11 posted 02-13-2019 05:46 PM |
One of the best things about SketchUp is you can learn how to use the software before you spend any money. The biggest difference between the no cost and paid versions of SketchUp is the types of files you can import and export. There are also solid modeling tools in the paid versions that let you use one part of a joint (like a tenon) to make the making part (the mortise) with just a couple of clicks of the mouse. You can accomplish the same thing in the no cost versions, but it takes a few more clicks. If you’re just starting out I suggest you download SketchUp Make 2017, the last “desktop” version that is free for personal use. There is a post on my website that answers the question which Version of SketchUp is for me? -- Bob Lang, https://readwatchdo.com |
#12 posted 02-13-2019 05:59 PM |
When you install Sketchup get the entire program. The Pro parts have a 30 day expiration. The hope being you will use them decide you need them and pay the toll for the Pro version and the unlock code if you don’t want the pro version those parts stop functioning after 30 days. -- Bruce, Boise, ID |
#13 posted 02-13-2019 06:21 PM |
I’ve always done mating parts using your “explode” method that works in SketchUp Make. I wasn’t aware that Pro made it easier, but now that I have it, I’d like to learn the quick method. I see you have a blog post from 2012 on the subject. Is there anything newer, or is the method unchanged since then? -- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner |
#14 posted 02-13-2019 06:30 PM |
+1 for Bob Lang’s comment about Sketchup Make 2017. -- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins. |
#15 posted 02-13-2019 06:50 PM |
Hi again, I can see a lot of good answers and ideas here. Short about me. Child room is all made of home made furniture(made drawings in excel and cut wood with saw). During this process I found woodworking very interesting and decided to quit my office job and make living froom woodworking so thats why pen an and paper method doesnt suit for me. Topic is closed i guess, unless someone can recommen reading material for beginner( diff wood types, paint for wood, trends, tools and so on |
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