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02-08-2019 09:18 PM

Over on Instagram, JessEm has posted a photo of their newly designed miter gauge, the “Mite-R-Excel II”. It looks solid and I like the dual bars with the flip-stop. Compared to the Incra though, the angle settings look less precise. There are positive stops at some angles and a vernier scale, but I don’t think it’s going to replace my Incra. Still, depending on price it could be an attractive option for new shoppers.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner


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#1 posted 02-08-2019 11:22 PM

Interesting. I will looking to see where it’s price point is.

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#2 posted 02-09-2019 03:07 PM

They make quality stuff so I’d expect it to be a pleasure to use. One concern I have is I don’t see any miter bar width adjustability (my delta slots are horribly oversized). I’d be great if they offered a few optional bars in wider widths.

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#3 posted 02-09-2019 03:31 PM

I see an adjustment centric on the front part.

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#4 posted 02-09-2019 04:01 PM



I see an adjustment centric on the front part.

- pontic

Ah yes! I had mistaken that for the anti-tipout bolt.

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#5 posted 02-09-2019 05:41 PM


...snip… One concern I have is I don t see any miter bar width adjustability (my delta slots are horribly oversized). I d be great if they offered a few optional bars in wider widths.

- splintergroup

If you can drill and tap steel, you can add width adjustment yourself.

I have the same situation, with my Bosch router table. The slot is nominally 12mm, but actually measures 0.785”. I have the Incra 1000SE miter gauge where the bar is only 0.735” wide with their adjustment discs. But… The maximum width the discs work at is about 0.760”. I was not satisfied with the amount of slop that still existed. Also, I have a Powermatic 140 bandsaw and a Jet 12” disk sander, with slots much closer to 3/4” but still not the same.

I wanted a width adjustment that could be easily and accurately changed so I could use the miter gauge on each machine. I came up with adding 1/4-20 nylon set screws on both sides of the miter bar. With the 20tpi, each turn of the set screw is 0.050”. Using an hex key, it is easy to rotate the screw in increments to set it at specific, desired widths and fine tune as needed, 1/4 turn = 0.0125”.

Using these set screws, I was able to make the bar fit my router table slot with no slop at all but it still slides with ease. I put in six set screws along the 17-3/4” bar but I think as few as four would work.

I got the set screws from McMaster-Carr, pack of 100 for $7.48 plus shipping.

I have since re-installed the adjustment discs so the holes won’t fill with chips, but they are not “deployed”.

Rick

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#6 posted 02-09-2019 07:59 PM


If you can drill and tap steel, you can add width adjustment yourself.

- RickKr

That’s a good tip. Those could even be added to home made wooden runners to provide a more precise fit. I’m guessing the nylon has a low friction property as well.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#7 posted 02-09-2019 09:14 PM



That s a good tip. Those could even be added to home made wooden runners to provide a more precise fit. I m guessing the nylon has a low friction property as well.

- Rich

Yes, they certainly could be used on wood runners. I would use Helicoil type threaded inserts if I were putting these in wood runners.

In my case where I have multiple tables I want to use the miter with, the first side is set to fit the two smaller slots, with the second side screws fully recessed. For the widest slot (router table) the first side screws are not changed but the second side screws are screwed out to fit, so the two sets of set screws function to fit basically two widths of slots. The screws are 5/16” long and the bar 3/4” so screws on both sides can be completely recessed should there be reason to.

Rick

-- If you want nice clean, fresh oats, you must pay a fair price. However, if you can be satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse, that comes at a lower price.

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#8 posted 02-10-2019 12:23 AM

I used spring loaded ball tipped set screws on my incra, they work great.

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#9 posted 02-10-2019 01:00 AM

Looks a lot like the old JDS 18-34 miter guage that has been around for 20 years. Don’t know if they still make it. But very similar in looks.

-- Dave

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#10 posted 10-08-2019 09:20 PM

I have both the JDS, the Jessem, as well as an Incra 3000 that is embeded in a sled. The JDS is significantly heavier. The Jessem is lighter, but still well made. The JDS requires shims to get the fence perfectly adjusted across the horizontal and vertical planes. That is its biggest drawback for me. The JDS has an optional hold down clamp, but it doesn’t work well.

The Jessem has all adjustments all built into the gauge. Adjustments are quick, easy, and stable. The Jessum takes sacrificial fences more easily too. Making is auxiliary fence for the JDS is a pain since it doesn’t have built in tracks on the front of the fence. The JDS doesn’t have a handle, which may not bother everyone. The Jessum has a knurled handle that provides a safer way to push through the cut.

Both gauges should add an adjustment for the tip of the gauge where it fist inserts into the track. Both of them can be tilted up a bit by pushing down on the handle at the rear. It won’t pop out of the track, but it still moves up. This additional adjustment screw would eliminate the up/down slop to match the excellent side to side stability that both gauges have.

I have been using both for about 6 months and the Jessum is getting more use. It is essentially an improved JDS. The JDS was about $249 when purchased a few years ago and the Jessum was $200 during the pre-order period. The price was $249 when I last checked.

JDS Tools doesn’t seem to be in business anymore. Support from them was non-existent. They never returned calls or email. Jessum answers the phone and responds to e-mail.

-- Rick -- I never let my lack of talent get in the way of my creativity.

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#11 posted 10-09-2019 08:25 PM

Jessum makes a lot of good stuff, and some pretty so-so things. They are going to have to really go a long way to outdo the Incra 1000 series miter gauges. They are IMHO the best on the market today.

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#12 posted 10-09-2019 08:49 PM

The miter gauge itself looks fine, but I’d rather have a wood sacrificial front bar.

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#13 posted 10-09-2019 09:01 PM

It’s on Amazon for $260, which I can understand given the quality, but I don’t cut anywhere near enough odd bevels to justify the expense to myself, seems like I get by fine with a 90 & a 45 sled. Sometimes for the one offs when I do need a different one I use a Starret compass and figure where to shim the end of the board to get the needed angle.

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#14 posted 10-09-2019 09:07 PM


The miter gauge itself looks fine, but I d rather have a wood sacrificial front bar.

- bondogaposis

It has a t-slot on the front to add one. You can see it on their web site. https://jessem.com/products/mite-r-excel-gauge-ii

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#15 posted 10-10-2019 01:52 PM

I own the new JessEm miter gauge and have used it for a while. I also have used an Incra 1000 for years.

I hope to write a simple review soon.

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