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02-05-2019 05:24 PM

What thickness do you usually use?

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#1 posted 02-05-2019 05:36 PM

For me it depends on the application, but I mostly use thick because it doesn’t run as easily as the medium and the thin.

This stuff is widely used for finish on pen turnings and the like, so that tells you something about how it can affect the surface of the wood. I find that once it gets on an area that I didn’t intend for it to be, it can be difficult to remove and the process of removing it can sometimes damage your project’s surface.

That being said, however, thin is sometimes the only thing that will work when you need to make a repair that requires “wicking” the glue into a small crack.

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#2 posted 02-05-2019 05:38 PM

Depends if I need it to wick or to fill gaps a bit, etc. Regardless, I like to have a spray bottle of accelerator handy. I like to have a thin and a gel on hand for various things. Which reminds me I need to order some more thin for a fretboard I will be working on this weekend. This page has some good tips on uses you may not have thought of: https://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Online_Resources/Learn_About_Instrument_Finishing_and_Finish_Repair/Which_super_glue_to_use_thin_medium_or_thick.html

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#3 posted 02-05-2019 05:42 PM

I have tried them all and what has worked best for me is thin for sealing fibers or re-enforcing threads in wood, basically anytime I need it to penetrate. Everything else gets medium. I could probably interchange thick and medium in most situations but I do like medium better than thick for small items on the lathe. Gel never seems to last very long in the container for me so I have given up on it.

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#4 posted 02-05-2019 05:51 PM

for me 80% thin,20% medium,and very rarely thick.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#5 posted 02-05-2019 06:14 PM

I use mostly thick….a very little med…and a fair amount of thin…..The thick I use for most gluing, the medium I use for a few coats on pens, and likewise the thin. The thin I also use for some cracks on turnings, and blow it into the crack with low power air, followed by more thin with sawdust. I am in the process of moving all my wooden pens (which are mostly segmented and almost no others) to poly that is on the Penn state turning device to stop drips. My opinion of CA finishes is very dim, of late. Of course, I also use accelerator.

I also use a pliable CA occasionally, (great for shoes) and for some repair I use gel CA. It stays in place better. My favorite glue for pen tubes and any repair that I need more permanent is Epoxy. I keep all my CA in Ball quart jars with scavenged desiccant and some large packets of desiccant from amazon. They last me a couple of years, but with all that CA I do throw a fair amount away from age.

I make a few hundred acrylic pens a year, so I go though a lot of epoxy…..and oh not that I ever do this but I knew a guy that did once….I use gorilla glue glue in case I have drilled a blank a touch to large…it expands and fills the gap, if its small. Gorilla glue has a rather short shelf life though, so I only buy it when I might….um someone might need it.

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#6 posted 02-05-2019 06:20 PM



Gel never seems to last very long in the container for me so I have given up on it.

- RobHannon

I used to basically consider the tubes of gel “one time use” because of that. But the last one I bought was this and it actually kept very well. I had to cut and break off the tip a couple times(lid self glued to tip) but otherwise the contents stayed usable for several months in my toolchest, and the squeeze bottle gives good control. I was actually surprised when I still got it to work after not using it a few months. Finally had to throw it away maybe a year later( i rarely use gel but I like having on hand) This is the one I got:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Loctite-4g-Ultra-Gel-Control-Super-Glue-Bottle-1363589/202020461

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#7 posted 02-05-2019 06:25 PM

yeah i gave up on gels too,they just dont seem to last.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#8 posted 02-05-2019 06:35 PM


I keep all my CA in Ball quart jars with scavenged desiccant and some large packets of desiccant from amazon.

This is pretty smart. I need to give this a try.

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#9 posted 02-05-2019 06:41 PM


I keep all my CA in Ball quart jars with scavenged desiccant and some large packets of desiccant from amazon.

This is pretty smart. I need to give this a try.

I’d like to take credit but I got the idea from somewhere…..it works….I have marbles in the bottom to take u[ oxygen space in most of them. I get get about two years out of thick and a year out of gel consistently. I alway date the new bottles just to see.

- RobHannon


-- Mike

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#10 posted 02-05-2019 06:59 PM


I keep all my CA in Ball quart jars with scavenged desiccant and some large packets of desiccant from amazon.

This is pretty smart. I need to give this a try.

I d like to take credit but I got the idea from somewhere…..it works….I have marbles in the bottom to take u[ oxygen space in most of them. I get get about two years out of thick and a year out of gel consistently. I alway date the new bottles just to see.

- RobHannon

- moke


sounds good ill try that myself mike.what about a shot of bloxygen,maybe that would work also?

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#11 posted 02-05-2019 07:10 PM


I keep all my CA in Ball quart jars with scavenged desiccant and some large packets of desiccant from amazon.

This is pretty smart. I need to give this a try.

I d like to take credit but I got the idea from somewhere…..it works….I have marbles in the bottom to take u[ oxygen space in most of them. I get get about two years out of thick and a year out of gel consistently. I alway date the new bottles just to see.

- RobHannon

- moke

Thats interesting. From a logical perspective I would have thought complete opposite. I thought those packets were to absorb moisture to keep things dry. I would think it would dry the CA out faster…Either way, the reason I keep CA on hand is because the little tubes take up virtually no room in the top drawer of my tool chest, and they are just a couple bucks at the big box stores to replace. Interesting nonetheless.

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#12 posted 02-05-2019 07:26 PM

I keep all my CA in Ball quart jars with scavenged desiccant and some large packets of desiccant from amazon.

This is pretty smart. I need to give this a try.

I d like to take credit but I got the idea from somewhere…..it works….I have marbles in the bottom to take u[ oxygen space in most of them. I get get about two years out of thick and a year out of gel consistently. I alway date the new bottles just to see.

- RobHannon

- moke

sounds good ill try that myself mike.what about a shot of bloxygen,maybe that would work also?

- pottz

Great idea Pottz!! I will steal….um..I mean try that myself!

SMP…
water is also an accelerator for CA….the desiccant eliminates any extra humidity in the jar. Or so I am told.

-- Mike

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#13 posted 02-05-2019 07:31 PM


SMP…
water is also an accelerator for CA….the desiccant eliminates any extra humidity in the jar. Or so I am told.

- moke

Interesting, maybe I will try with some salvaged dessicant and a ziploc bag, at least will still lay flat in my top drawer of tool chest. Thanks!

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#14 posted 02-05-2019 10:15 PM

Thanks guys. I’ve been gluing parts boxes made of MDF. So far it seems to working ok. All I have is thin and use accelerant.

Are all CA glues created equal? I’ve been using Fast Cap but think I’ll go to Titebond?

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#15 posted 02-05-2019 10:52 PM

I guess I always figured the thicker the glue the more the holding stuff it has in it…....I know…very technical. I only use the thin and medium when I want it to flow and not “ball up”. Now as far as brands, I don’t think there is a huge difference…..as long as you use the better stuff. I have been using P12 because the local Acme tools caries it and I want to do as much business with them to keep them around as I can…..I have used a bunch of different ones without noticing a lot of difference EXCEPT….I hate titebond containers. They clog and are pretty much useless…IN MY OPINION ONLY…..

As soon as I say that we will get everyone saying I’m crazy…this is better than that….I am much more concerned with he container so it remains useful. Yes I have tried three or four alternate kinds of containers from amazon without much luck there too…..the best thing I ever bought is a “tube clearer” that looks like an old style “cherry bomb” Fireworks from Exotic blanks (its a round wooden piece with a STIFF wire coming from it just the right size)...it works awesome!!!!! They work great on the P12 containers too! Not sure if P12 makes gel or not though, so I order Fast cap gel and pliable CA or that…..I get that from Exotic blanks too.
At least I think it’s fastcap…whatever he sells…I’m at work and the glue is at home right now.

-- Mike

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