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Forum topic by Jack Lewis posted 01-28-2019 03:05 PM 643 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jack Lewis

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01-28-2019 03:05 PM

Topic tags/keywords: price lumber question

For the life of me I cannot understand why 5/4 and up lumber is priced per B/F higher than 4/4. It takes less manpower and handling for the larger size. Most mills cut at 9/4 I think and resaw to 4/4. Does the demand dictate the price?

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Andre

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#1 posted 01-28-2019 03:12 PM

Harder to find good quality in thicker wood, what I find disgusting is to charge QS prices for flat sawn lumber. (and usually full of knots and cracks)

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#2 posted 01-28-2019 03:26 PM

a few more reasons—harder to move around, longer to dry, harder to dry without checks, often takes bigger logs

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#3 posted 01-28-2019 03:54 PM

I’d be willing to bet there is an “economies of scale” issue also. Diesel fuel costs less to refine than gasoline, but is often sold at a higher price than gasoline. I have always heard that the reason is tha the sheer volume of gasoline allows for fixed costs to be distributed over a far larger base lowering the unit cost. I would uses that 4/4 is a much higher volume product.

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#4 posted 01-28-2019 04:03 PM

I am guessing it’s mostly a conspiracy to tick off Jack, but I also agree with all of the reasons listed too.

Andre, I agree. I don’t mind when it’s QS or even rift which has it’s uses, but having so much flat sawn “junk” included is a rude deal.

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#5 posted 01-28-2019 08:15 PM

4/4 is in high volume demand, 5/4 not so much. Economics of scale.

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#6 posted 01-28-2019 08:23 PM

5/4 takes more kiln time, hence more cost

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#7 posted 01-29-2019 12:44 AM

It takes longer to dry for starters. A longer kiln schedule means more energy needed and greater cost. Also the thicker you go, the harder it is to saw a clear board from a log. I can cut and kiln dry 4/4 lumber in 2-3 months while my 12/4 slabs take 1-2 years. Are you saying I’m wrong to charge more for 12/4?

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WDHLT15

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#8 posted 01-29-2019 02:15 AM

It takes 2.5 times longer to dry a 2” board versus a 1” board. Also, more potential drying defects in thicker lumber as thicker lumber is more persnickety to right. As has been pointed out, thicker boards require larger logs. Larger logs require bigger backs or bigger machines. Thicker lumber is heavier and harder to handle.

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#9 posted 01-29-2019 02:52 AM

Mills I work with slice a lot of 4/4 and dry it fast. Not seen them making thicker then resawing. When I need bigger, I often make my own.

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