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Forum topic by Steve_O posted 01-23-2019 04:43 PM 642 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Steve_O

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01-23-2019 04:43 PM

Topic tags/keywords: g1023 grizzly rigid r4512 table saw buy sell fence

I acquired a 1 owner (have receipt), lightly used G1023 Z …(older guy moved to Fla, left bigger machines behind) my friends bought the house and want everything out, dont want strangers walking around for a few grand in machines and hassle. It is a climate controlled, dry shop. Other than a little dust, it appears to be in very good working order. It has a nicer fence and is beefier compared to my R4512 .
My question is do I sell my R4512 and keep the grizzly or just sell the grizzly ?

pros and cons:
After setup and alignment, my R4512 does what I need, it’s adequate.
my R4512 is 2 yrs old compared to a 1 owner, lightly used but still a 1999 bought machine.
My R4512 is a LEFT tilt. I could adapt but not thrilled about R tilt on the grizzly.
I can move my R4512 around easier

The Grizzly is 3hp (a few situations the R4512 could use more power and has bogged)
The Grizzly has a much more rigid and beefier fence. (Magna-Set Taiwan ?)
The grizzly wings are both cast, R4512 are sheet…although i’ve had no prob with stamped steel.

I guess it comes down to: Grizzly will likely never bog down for what I do.
Grizzly has a beefier, better fence than my R4512
My R4512 does everything i need. Not higher end but it’s completely adequate. It’s newer.
My R4512 is LEFT tilt.
I could sell the grizzly, put the money toward something else ?

Also got a G1021 Planer, G1026 3hp shaper, G1028 dust collector, Rbi 220VS Scroll saw like new, Jet JWBS-18 bandsaw like new. Everything is either like new or very good cond 1 owner .

I am not a high end cabinet or furniture maker. I tend to build more functional things like bee equipment,
outdoor speaker cabinets, machinery boxes, bird houses …

What should I do ? I’ve gotten by thus far with mid range table saws, sliding miter saws and hand tools.
I do love working in wood but could never justify 1000-1500 wood working machines.
Share your thoughts, I appreciate it and thanks !

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-- Build things in wood and metal...when i'm not at my day job


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bgilb

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#1 posted 01-23-2019 04:45 PM

The grizzly is far superior to the R4512. You got all those tools for free??

Some big cons though is I don’t think the grizzly accepts a riving knife? I probably personally wouldn’t use a saw that didn’t accept one.

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Steve_O

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#2 posted 01-23-2019 04:56 PM



The grizzly is far superior to the R4512. You got all those tools for free??

Some big cons though is I don t think the grizzly accepts a riving knife? I probably personally wouldn t use a saw that didn t accept one.

- bgilb

Thank you. I’m not worried about the riving knife. I know, i know…safety. I’ve used push sticks and make push blocks, I impose strict safety practices on myself with power tools. I’m ok with no riving knife. I try to always work in such a way that when and if something unexpected happens, I am not in a position to get pulled in, or in line with the blade. Yeah I got everything, free. Only catch is that i had to take EVERYTHING, including a millrite powermatic which is about 1400 lbs

-- Build things in wood and metal...when i'm not at my day job

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RichBolduc

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#3 posted 01-23-2019 05:03 PM

I’d go with the Grizzly all the way. As for the riving knife, there’s always the Microjig Splitter.

Rich

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Steve_O

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#4 posted 01-23-2019 05:25 PM

Thanks. I appreciate any input. Especially if you have an opinion on WHY i should keep one over the other .
If the grizzly was a left tilt, i’d keep if no question. Not really thrilled about having to work on the other side and be limited if i need a bevel.

-- Build things in wood and metal...when i'm not at my day job

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knotscott

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#5 posted 01-23-2019 05:36 PM

Why “get by” when you have an opportunity for a major upgrade? The G1023 should be a lot more pleasant to use.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Steve_O

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#6 posted 01-23-2019 05:49 PM



Why “get by” when you have an opportunity for a major upgrade? The G1023 should be a lot more pleasant to use.

- knotscott


I agree. That’s definitely weighing in on my decision.
What do you guys think about the RIGHT tilt though. It is making me think of unpleasant situations with my SCMS cutting over the top of a bevel. And i’m limited if I cut on the opposite side of the fence.

-- Build things in wood and metal...when i'm not at my day job

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syenefarmer

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#7 posted 01-23-2019 05:53 PM

I would keep the Grizzly and sell the Ridgid if for no other reason than, if past history is any indication, if you ever need parts down the road you’ll stand a much better chance of finding them with Grizzly.

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Steve_O

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#8 posted 01-23-2019 06:30 PM


if you ever need parts down the road you ll stand a much better chance of finding them with Grizzly.

- syenefarmer

Thanks for the input, I appreciate it !
What’s the opinion on right tilt ? I haven’t owned a right tilt but i’m not thrilled about it, reminds me of the occasional times I have to cut over a bevel on my SCMS …

-- Build things in wood and metal...when i'm not at my day job

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Steve

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#9 posted 01-23-2019 06:30 PM

I think I’d keep the Grizzly and sell the Ridgid just in case you decide later on down the road you want to start building other stuff. I’d rather have the capacity and not need it, then need it and not have it.

And why can’t I have any friends buy a house and give me a ton of leftover tools?

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Monty151

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#10 posted 01-23-2019 06:44 PM

Keep the Grizzly put a Microjig Splitter on it and call it a day. Its a machine that I feel will last you much longer than the R4512. You will adapt to the RIGHT tilt in no time. No biggie.

Oh and congrats on the new machines.

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Steve_O

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#11 posted 01-23-2019 06:51 PM


I think I d keep the Grizzly and sell the Ridgid just in case you decide later on down the road you want to start building other stuff. I d rather have the capacity and not need it, then need it and not have it.

And why can t I have any friends buy a house and give me a ton of leftover tools?

- Steve

Good point. well all my life I feel like i’ve been freely giving away my time and resources. I helped these people and their business out with alot of probs, repairs, fixes, computer issues, etc over the years. I think they just dont want the hassle of strangers coming in their house and the hassle of selling for a few G’s … I have wanted a router table for years …so now i get a shaper ! Works out for once in my life .
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Keep the Grizzly put a Microjig Splitter on it and call it a day. Its a machine that I feel will last you much longer than the R4512. You will adapt to the RIGHT tilt in no time. No biggie.
Oh and congrats on the new machines.
- Monty151

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Thank you ! MicroJig Splitter doesn’t do bevels though . I’m ok without a riving knife , it’s the Right Tilt and bevel cuts i’m not thrilled about.

Thanks everyone for giving their 2 cents. I appreciate it !

-- Build things in wood and metal...when i'm not at my day job

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ArtMann

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#12 posted 01-23-2019 07:23 PM

There is no question about what I would do. I would keep the Grizzly. However, it is a right tilt saw, which I consider a serious drawback.

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jonah

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#13 posted 01-23-2019 07:28 PM

There’s no question – keep the Grizzly. It’s many times better in terms of stability, repeat-ability, and reliability.

I would have no problem with a right tilt saw. I’ve never needed to bevel a panel wide enough that I couldn’t do it to the left of the blade, even though my saw is left tilt and I can do it on the right side.

To use a crude car analogy, you have a Ford Focus in the Ridgid saw and you have the opportunity to upgrade to a beefy (if not fancy) F150 workhorse in the Grizzly.

Get the Microjig splitter for straight rips and call it a day.

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knotscott

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#14 posted 01-23-2019 07:28 PM

I prefer left tilt, but would not pass on that opportunity over being right tilt….it’s nearly a non-issue. You can always move the fence to the left side of the blade for bevel cuts.

Even the riving knife is not a show stopper for me….it a good splitter will do the trick.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Steve_O

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#15 posted 01-23-2019 07:40 PM

Thanks guys ! Yeah no riving knive is not a problem at all for me.
I appreciate the input !

-- Build things in wood and metal...when i'm not at my day job

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