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01-21-2019 09:33 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw delta craigslist question tablesaw

I am looking to purchase my first table saw. I read through some of previous posts on this topic and I have a few questions. My apologies if this is a tired topic.

I am not finding much on CL (Toledo, OH) in my price range $500-$600 (although I could justify a little more if it was the right saw). There is a used Grizzly G0444Z but the guy didn't respond. Other than that I have not seen much over the last couple months.

I am considering the Delta 36-725. Lowes is offering 11% back this week and I have a 10% off coupon that I can combine (I checked). This brings the price down to about $480 plus tax.

CL also has a $400 Delta with a pretty sketchy fence.

I would like to hear your thoughts. Do I pull the trigger on the 36-725 at that price or continue to watch CL and hope some decides to upgrade to a SawStop?


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#1 posted 01-21-2019 09:39 PM

How soon do you want a saw? That’s really the question. If you want one right away, then the 36-725 is your answer. If you aren’t in a hurry, you can continue to watch CL. There’s not much showing in your area right now (that Delta you linked is way overpriced) but I don’t know if that’s normal or not.

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#2 posted 01-21-2019 09:45 PM

Based on the forums I have read it seems like most of the stuff around here is over priced our out of my range. I do not have any reason I can’t wait, other than being impatient and wanting to start some projects.

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#3 posted 01-21-2019 10:02 PM

Most of the saws in your area look to be a little bit overpriced, but not all. Also, an asking price and selling price are not necessarily the same…make a reasonable offer if a saw checks out.

That G0444Z is a little pricey, but has a great fence.

There’s a Powermatic contractor saw with a Vega fence – $500 is a bit steep, but could be worth a look and an offer: https://annarbor.craigslist.org/tls/d/ann-arbor-powermatic-10-table-saw/6793283003.html

There’s also a Craftsman contractor saw for $325 that’s worth a look and maybe an offer:
https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/tls/d/craftsman-10-contractor-table-saw/6788283359.html

This Cman looks like a good deal – https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/tls/d/berkley-old-tablesaw-works/6777708778.html

There’s a Craftsman 22114 hybrid (by Steel City/Orion) for $400 that looks worth a visit.
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tls/d/dearborn-heights-craftsman-contractor/6794221525.html

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#4 posted 01-21-2019 10:45 PM

Thanks for the links knotscott. Also, props for the table saw ABC’s, it helped me a lot.

I’d make an offer on the G0444Z but I can’t get a response. I follow you on asking vs selling price. Unfortunately I don’t have a great way to get the saw home so it’s a little harder to kick the tires when I need to arrange for a truck.

Do you think the Craftsman’s at those prices are better (or better value) than the 36-725?

I had not seen the Cman hybrid before so I will definitely check that out.

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#5 posted 01-22-2019 01:15 AM

I’m on the other end of Ohio and if your willing to make a trip it seems like there are always some good deals around Columbus or Dayton.

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#6 posted 01-22-2019 02:21 PM

I’ve had my 36-725 for a couple years now and it handles anything I throw at it. At $480, I say pull the trigger and skip the risk of a used machine.

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#7 posted 01-22-2019 02:40 PM

Can anyone explain why a used saw is superior to 36-725? I understand why a true cabinet saw would be, but is there a reason the older contract saws (craftsman or otherwise) are superior?

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#8 posted 01-22-2019 07:54 PM



Can anyone explain why a used saw is superior to 36-725? I understand why a true cabinet saw would be, but is there a reason the older contract saws (craftsman or otherwise) are superior?

- Wookieelover

At the core, all contractor saws are pretty similar in basic cutting capabilities. Where you might get some bang for the buck buying used is if someone upgraded the fence on an older saw. The fence on the 36-725 is pretty marginal, IMHO. It’s better than the stock fence that came on the ubiquitous Craftsman 113’s, but not near the quality of a good aftermarket fence. If you can save by buying a good quality used saw with a decent fence, you might be ahead. If you have to pay near new price, then buy new.

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#9 posted 01-22-2019 08:25 PM

Can anyone explain why a used saw is superior to 36-725?
- Wookieelover

Well, it depends on which used saw you are talking about. If you are looking at it from a purely functional standpoint, then there isn’t much difference between that new $600 Delta and a used $100 Craftsman/Delta contractor saw. However, once you start looking a bit deeper at the upper end of the older machines, you will find over-built designs with heavier castings, thicker sheet metal, less plastic, oversized gears/bushings, better/more precise machining of parts, etc… and all for cheaper than something new. For example: It is entirely possible to wind up with a basically brand new cabinet saw (Unisaw, PM66, Delta 12/14, PM72, etc..) for a fraction of what you would pay for that new Delta.

Cheers,
Brad

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#10 posted 01-22-2019 08:45 PM



For example: It is entirely possible to wind up with a basically brand new cabinet saw (Unisaw, PM66, Delta 12/14, PM72, etc..) for a fraction of what you would pay for that new Delta.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

That would be great. But most of the stuff I am finding on CL isn’t that much cheaper and often needs a fence upgrade to be serviceable (see the $400 delta above). I would end up spending more than I would on the 36-725. I could stomach it if I was getting a better saw, but it seems odd to me to spend the same or more buying a used saw and upgrading a fence. If I am going to spend $800+, I would rather just hold out for the Grizzly G0771Z which can be had for around $900 with their 10% off coupon.

Cabinet saws on CL have been well out of my price range.

At my price range, I need the saw to have a serviceable fence, or at least be cheap enough that I can justify upgrading that fence and stay close to my budget.

I actually heard back from the guy with the G0444Z, and he seems to be standing firm on $800. Am I wrong to think that at $800, I would just find the extra $100 and get the G0771Z?

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#11 posted 01-22-2019 08:53 PM

The two examples you cite are definitely overpriced. The SawStop in particular is basically the price of the same setup brand new.

Keep looking. Often older, more-TLC-required cabinet saws will pop up for $500 or so. You have to move fast (CL alerts are your friend here), but they’re out there.

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#12 posted 01-22-2019 08:56 PM

That would be great. But most of the stuff I am finding on CL isn t that much cheaper and often needs a fence upgrade to be serviceable (see the $400 delta above).
- Wookieelover

Everyone says that… because the good deals only hang out for a short period of time. What you wind up looking at are the marginal to bad deals that stay out there. Patience and Persistence will get you there. Getting the ‘gotta have it now’ itch will cost you.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: Ohio is a fantastic location for old machinery as there were several well respected manufacturers up there (ie: My Boyce Crane jointer was made in Toledo) and lots of machinery use in the area – use that to your advantage.

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#13 posted 01-22-2019 09:59 PM

If you have 220 available, something like this would be a serious upgrade over the new Delta

https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tls/d/wayne-powermatic-table-saw/6795410625.html

Even better, the poster has “Make me an offer” right in the ad.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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#14 posted 01-23-2019 03:44 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. You have convinced me to hold off for now and continue to monitor CL.

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#15 posted 01-23-2019 04:52 PM


I actually heard back from the guy with the G0444Z, and he seems to be standing firm on $800. Am I wrong to think that at $800, I would just find the extra $100 and get the G0771Z?

- Wookieelover

If it were me, in your shoes, I’d gather up the extra scratch for the new Grizzly. Once you get it home it will actually be more than just an extra $100, but if you’re going to spend that much, why not go for the G0771Z?

You say you’re only impatient to start projects but otherwise willing to wait it out. If coming up with the extra money means having to wait, I think you’d be better off in the long run with a brand new Grizzly.

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