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Jack Rigg

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01-20-2019 09:45 PM

Topic tags/keywords: lathe

I’m wanting buy a new lathe in addition to an old Delta 46-250 I already have, so naturally figured you good folks could help me spend my money. I’m intending to go into a more commercial phase (in 2020) instead of my current hobby/DIY. While I’m by no means a professional with a lathe, I am trying to plan for that future by getting a better machine in place this year.

I’ve been looking at several, but not really committed to anything or even a price point to a certain extent, other than around 2.5-3k as a maximum. Below are two I picked using Google, but don’t know if there are comparable or better machines for same or even less money

The Grizzly G0766 is at the top of my list right now with a 3hp motor. I don’t have the skill set to utilize it during the first year, but in upcoming years it’s likely I will have grown in to it.

Also the Jet JWL-1640EVS... Not really sure of some of the features, 36 integrated indexing positions, I don’t know if that’s a handy item to have or just a conversation starter.

So anyway, if someone has suggestions, advice or warnings of potential pitfalls… feel free to express such. I may not know what I’m doing with one now, but in the interim…( at the very least) I should be fun to watch.

-- Jack https://Carterscreekrenovations.Com


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Sawdust2012

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#1 posted 01-21-2019 01:15 AM

Either lathe will be an amazing machine. You are in the top range of both lines. I like the idea of being able to work with a local dealer, ergo Jet. If you are going to monetize your hobby, downtime is money lost. Jet just seem, imho, to do big lathes correctly, and I like the idea of a Jet rep calling on the store from which I bought a $2500 machine. The hp difference would be my ONLY concern, but how much do you really need. I would like to know how often people are turning huge blanks requiring a spinning elecric meter to rotate. One more thing…Jet goes down to 40 rpm, vs 100 for the Grizzly. That would matter to me with a big unbalanced blank.

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rizzo

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#2 posted 01-21-2019 03:41 AM

I purchased a Laguna 18|36 about a year ago and I love it. I wrote an initial review of the lathe, and plan on doing a follow up review soon (now that I am a year into it).

Very robust, great feature set, plenty of size ( for me at least) and room for expandability. I have been really happy with it and have had a blast getting into turning.

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mike02719

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#3 posted 01-21-2019 04:57 AM

You picked two popular machines. I was told that most of the parts are made in the same factory. For that matter parts for most lathes are made in the same factory. Keep in mind that import taxes are still in force. Grizzly tells this on their website. Laguna has a sale on now that will absorb that. I prefer the Laguna lathe because of some features. 2 horsepower should be adequate for most applications. You will be limited to the depth over the banjo if you buy one that doesn’t have a rotatable headstock, if you plan to turn very large stock, you can run the headstock to the right end of the lathe and remove the tailstock or turn the headstock 180 degrees. It depends how often you need this. Take a look at the Nova 1644 Galaxi. It seems to have many good features. Good luck with this and let us know how you make out.

-- Mike, Massachusetts

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Jack Rigg

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#4 posted 01-21-2019 06:43 AM

Thanks for the great replies, I’ve had fairly recent and excellent experience with a Laguna SmartShop II and can’t believe I didn’t think about looking up their line of lathes.The 2 hp motor seems adequate for what I anticipate, not to mention the lower amperage required compared to the 3hp on the Grizzly ( I lived off-grid for several years and now can’t shake the habit of counting watts).

I’ve also had good relationships with various Jet and Grizzly equipment. Concerning Laguna, it’s interesting to note that I had service issues on the CNC above, it was very hard to get call backs after asking for tech support. I complained to one of their tech guys and he gave me his direct contact info, so the issue never came back up (Plus 1 for Laguna).

What I’ve gathered from the responses so far is 1.5 to 2 hp should be sufficient, the various manufacturers at the 2.5k entry point are all producing acceptable and reliable quality. So basically, deciding factors so far might be reduced to price, ease of use, self serviceable and tech support. I’m going to cross the Grizzly off the list due to the 3hp, at first I thought that would be a plus but my electrical service isn’t much and as mentioned above, watts count.

Best regards and I truly appreciate all of the excellent replies and suggestions.

-- Jack https://Carterscreekrenovations.Com

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OSU55

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#5 posted 01-21-2019 01:40 PM

As for taking the Grizzly off because of 3hp motor – it will use the same power as a 2hp for the same cut (ok maybe 50w more). The power increases in reaction to the load.

I just went through the process of lathe selection. Hobby use not commercial, but I turn a lot of bowls. For probably a year I kept coming up with thw g0766 as the choice, but eventually it came down to a process choice – constantly remove the tailstock ( swing away, pivots, etc add a lot of $) and move the headstock down, or just pivot the spindle. I decided a pivoting spindle was the choice, and went with a Nova Galaxi. Added the outrigger assembly. Review of these is pending, but I know I made the right choice going with a pivoting spindle vs sliding the spindle and removing the tailstock. The only other choice was a jet 1840evs for about $1000 more.

My main point is include the process for what you will use the machine for. Ergonomics mean a lot when doing something repetitively. May be tough to do since you arent in business yet, but you should have a good idea of how a lathe fits in your business plan.

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Jack Lewis

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#6 posted 01-21-2019 03:07 PM

The Grizzly G0766 is at the top of my list right now with a 3hp motor. I don t have the skill set to utilize it during the first year, but in upcoming years it s likely I will have grown in to it.

- Jack Rigg

I have the G0766 but sorry I didn’t go for the G0800. The G0766 is fine in all respects that I can ask for now but in the future?? Besides I like the black lRobust look. At 22 inch max throw it gets scary all the wood moving so close to you! I do wish Grizzly would put the controls on right side instead of the left where you must reach into the line of fire. Suggest that you bore the tool rest to 1 inch vice the 25mm it has. I have turned some larger mesquite and eucalyptus pieces and never had a bog down during roughing or otherwise. I also have the problem when I turn the machine on and off control that the speed know will change. Gloves are the reason but it should have more resistance to moving. Mine does turn down to 40 RPM if that is an issue.

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"

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Jack Rigg

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#7 posted 02-17-2019 12:50 AM



I purchased a Laguna 18|36 about a year ago and I love it. I wrote an initial review of the lathe, and plan on doing a follow up review soon (now that I am a year into it).

Very robust, great feature set, plenty of size ( for me at least) and room for expandability. I have been really happy with it and have had a blast getting into turning.

- rizzo

Rizzo, I been looking and looking some more and from what I’ve gathered from prowling around online, no one seems to have an issue with the 18/36. It’s certainly at a good price point (I think). Is your machine set up as 220 or 110? I’d like to run at 110 for a while and then switch over to 220 when I get the time to run a circuit. Can the motor be wired both ways or does the purchase have to be one or the other, I’ve noticed them advertised as different machines.

-- Jack https://Carterscreekrenovations.Com

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Hockey

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#8 posted 02-17-2019 01:17 AM

I noticed in your original post that you were interested in the Jet 1640EVS. I have one and it is an excellent lathe with a 5 year warranty. It also has a feature of which not many are aware, and that is 3 headstock bearings, 2 at the business end and one at the back.

Right now, there is an incredible price ($2069.99) on the Jet 1640EVS at various stores. Also, Craft Supplies USA has an incredible price on the Jet 1840EVS (230 volt) for $2339.99.

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AndyJ1s

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#9 posted 02-18-2019 02:50 AM

In that price range, the Nova Galaxi DVR 1644 should also be on your list. 100-5000 RPM continuously variable (no hi-lo ranges) No belts that wear out or rob power. 120 or 240V operation with change of plug (2HP @ 220V).

DVR has better low-RPM torque than EVS (3-phase VFD).

I really like mine, but I am yet a novice woodturner.

Andy

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rizzo

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#10 posted 02-18-2019 04:15 AM


I purchased a Laguna 18|36 about a year ago and I love it. I wrote an initial review of the lathe, and plan on doing a follow up review soon (now that I am a year into it).

Very robust, great feature set, plenty of size ( for me at least) and room for expandability. I have been really happy with it and have had a blast getting into turning.

- rizzo

Rizzo, I been looking and looking some more and from what I ve gathered from prowling around online, no one seems to have an issue with the 18/36. It s certainly at a good price point (I think). Is your machine set up as 220 or 110? I d like to run at 110 for a while and then switch over to 220 when I get the time to run a circuit. Can the motor be wired both ways or does the purchase have to be one or the other, I ve noticed them advertised as different machines.

- Jack Rigg

My Machine is set up as 220. I’m pretty sure the machines are separate SKU’s and are that you can’t swap voltages. I do really love my machine though, so I would highly recommend it. I would suggest running the 240, it is worth it. Very happy with the lathe’s performance so far.

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Jack Rigg

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#11 posted 02-19-2019 11:53 PM

Went by Woodcraft today and looked at the Laguna they had on the floor. Sales guy said Laguna was putting it on sale 10% off April 1st, but Woodcraft would have it marked down March 1st. I told them I’d order one 1st week of March. The 240v is about $200 more IIRC, so I think I’ll go that route as I’m saving just enough to pay for it.

Thanks for all of the excellent advice and suggestions each of you have offered and I’m looking forward to hauling this machine home and pulling some new wiring for it.

-- Jack https://Carterscreekrenovations.Com

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mike02719

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#12 posted 02-20-2019 03:15 AM

Jack, if you are correct about Laguna lathes on sale, I will be PO’ed. They were on sale in January and I bought one from Beaver Industrial Supply. They told me it was in stock, but after I paid for it, back ordered. Supposed to be in stock 28 Feb. I gave my old lathe away and cleaned up the shop. I even washed and painted the floor. My patience is pretty thin right now.

-- Mike, Massachusetts

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Jack Rigg

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#13 posted 02-20-2019 07:13 AM



Jack, if you are correct about Laguna lathes on sale, I will be PO ed. They were on sale in January and I bought one from Beaver Industrial Supply. They told me it was in stock, but after I paid for it, back ordered. Supposed to be in stock 28 Feb. I gave my old lathe away and cleaned up the shop. I even washed and painted the floor. My patience is pretty thin right now.

- mike02719

Durn… they might sell me yours! :)~

-- Jack https://Carterscreekrenovations.Com

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#14 posted 02-20-2019 09:28 PM

I was down to the Laguna 1836 or the Grizzly G0766 as they were very close in price. The issue for me with the Laguna was the 18” swing. I wanted more, mainly for banjo clearance. To get there on the Laguana, one would have to order the extension, which is really nice but adds considerably to the price. It also would require more shop space to use off either end. Combine that with less HP (think bowl coring), and shorter spindle capacity (without extension) and I went with the G0766. I’ve only had it a few weeks, but it’s been flawless thus far.

Also, someone implied that the tool rest/post were 25 mm. That no longer is true. The rest and banjo are now both 1”.

-- tel

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mike02719

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#15 posted 02-21-2019 02:27 AM

Good looking storage on the weight shelf! I also like the Grizzly but I was leary of the tariffs. I contacted the local Woodcraft and they do not expect the Lagunas to go on sale soon. Mine is due Feb 28. We will see. Grizzly changed to 1” tool rest bars a real no brainer. It was not too difficult to bore it out to 1”. Good luck and lets see some pics of your projects.

-- Mike, Massachusetts

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