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DBDesigns

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01-15-2019 07:10 PM

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This is the first post in what I know will become a saga. After 25 years of building and loving my shop space, my wife and I have decided to sell our house and downsize. That’s right the dreaded smaller shop space when you are already challenged for space. The big “Give Up” will be closing the venerable Deadbeat Lounge attached to the shop. (See Pictures on my shop tour)

I am open to any suggestions regarding how to fit 10 pounds of #$%&* into a 5 pound sack. I’m thinking I can’t get by with anything less than a 2 car garage to fit a lot of tools and machines; Table saw and out feed, Jointer, shaper, drill press, lathe, chop saw, sander, planer, tool bench, band saw, plus a boat load of hand tools and hand held power tools and lumber!

No cars allowed!
Wish me luck and patience.

-- I remember when Grateful wasn't Dead


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GrantA

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#1 posted 01-15-2019 07:21 PM

I can’t help with fitting 10 where 5 belongs since I’m in the same boat but I was just saying if I ever build again I’m going higher to get a loft area and (or at least) a gantry crane!

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Phil32

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#2 posted 01-15-2019 07:26 PM

Perhaps it’s time to be honest with yourself as to what tools and machines you actually use. If you’ve reached that “downsizing” stage in life, it’s probably much less than in your past.

-- Phil Allin - There are mountain climbers and people who talk about climbing mountains. The climbers have "selfies" at the summit!

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#3 posted 01-15-2019 07:56 PM

DOWNSIZING THE SHOP!!! im sorry you just scared the hell out me-lol! ill pray for you.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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WoodenDreams

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#4 posted 01-16-2019 03:59 AM

Double your work bench as a outfeed table. If you have floor machines, consider mobility of casters to move things out of way. Down size your lumber storage. A tall upper and lower tool box will help condense tool storage. Shelf out your work benches for wood storage under your work benches. Upper wall cabinets will save floor space. Hanging storage from garage rafters. My shop is only 14×14, but efficient. but I did add a 8×10 storage area for tools and hardware, and a 8×20 area for assembly/gluing and finishing.

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CaptainKlutz

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#5 posted 01-16-2019 07:53 AM

HaHa – Good luck!
Am working at my 3rd shop location in 5 years since my initial need to downsize!

+1 Everything should be planned to serve multiple purposes. Assembly/air filter sanding bench as out feed table. No open base tool bases, use storage drawers under every tool.

IMHO – 2 car garage is plenty of space for hobby wood working tools.

Hardest part is being happy with work flow. Best if everything in shop is on wheels, so you can rearrange slightly to accommodate different work flow for stack of 5×9 MDF sheets, or 100 bdft of of maple for face frames.

Really need to look at tool pile and decide what is critical for future projects. Example: One thing I give up on last move was permanent miter saw station. Begrudgingly sold my Dewalt 12” radial arm saw, miter saw, and long set of work station cabinets. I switched to hand saw or circular saw to break down 8-12 ft boards during wood prep; and then use table saw on shorter lumber. Miss the convenience of miter station, but really appreciate the wall extra space. Floor & Wall space are gold in small shop, helps to think in 3D to make it work.

My space problems always drives me crazy when it comes to finishing, and/or making large projects like desk, tables, chairs, book cases, or cabinets. Not only does large component storage and final assembly eat a lot of space not available, but you can not finish one piece while sanding another in same area.
Can read/see how I deal with my space issues on my workshop page.

Best Luck.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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hkmiller

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#6 posted 01-16-2019 12:45 PM

Let me know if you need to sell some of your Stanley Planes in your transition to your smaller shop

-- always something

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#7 posted 01-16-2019 01:43 PM

I’m pretty sure you should just keep the shop and look for a new wife.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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bondogaposis

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#8 posted 01-16-2019 01:48 PM

Downsize your house and upsize your shop.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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DBDesigns

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#9 posted 01-16-2019 01:58 PM

Hokie,
The thought did occur to me but it becomes a cost/benefit analysis and the shop loses by a significant margin to ex-wives and lawyers.
Phil32,
I’ve been lying to myself for years. Why be honest now? Plus, “He Who Dies With The Most Tools Wins!”
HK,
I rehab planes and chisels all the time and re-sell them on EBAY. My seller name is Justplanetim. I will be listing a bunch of stuff coming up in a week or two. If you are really interested, I will give you a look before EBAY.
Pottz,
I think a new shop dog will also be included with the new space. Hopefully a rescue Beagle with a creative name and a lazy attitude.
CKlutz,
Damn, 3 shops in 5 years? You are as resilient as anyone I have met!
All,
Thanks for your ideas and encouragement.

-- I remember when Grateful wasn't Dead

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HokieKen

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#10 posted 01-16-2019 02:26 PM

Damn lawyers.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#11 posted 01-16-2019 02:35 PM

From the images a two car garage would be an upgrade in size.

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DBDesigns

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#12 posted 01-16-2019 06:20 PM

Bout the same size Blue Ridge. The attached bar is the biggest loss! There is probably gonna be a legendary blowout before I close the Deadbeat Lounge!

Actually, the square shape of a two car would probably be an advantage over the L shape of the old shop.

-- I remember when Grateful wasn't Dead

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#13 posted 01-16-2019 06:28 PM

Unless I missed it DB, there isn’t a pic of your bar in your “workshop”. I’d love to see a few pics :-))

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#14 posted 01-16-2019 06:29 PM

I’ve seriously considered getting rid of my miter saw. It takes up a lot of space, and it does basically nothing you can’t do with other tools (band saw, table saw, jigsaw, circular saw). Add the fact that the dust collection is freaking terrible, and I’ve almost pulled the trigger in the past.

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HokieKen

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#15 posted 01-16-2019 06:39 PM

Good point Jonah. I had my miter saw on a flip top cart with my lunchbox planer on the opposite side. I realized a couple of weeks ago that the only times I’ve used my CMS in the last couple of years was when I had to unbolt it and take it to my son’s house to help him with some remodeling. So, my belt/disc sander took its place on the flip top cart and the CMS now lives on a shelf and will only come out if/when I need it.

Also, between hand planes and a jointing sled for my planer, I could live without my jointer. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice to have the jointer when I need it. But I could get by without it and never miss it much I think.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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