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liveoutdoors9

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01-12-2019 02:02 PM

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Hi all. New to the forums. Just moved into a home after being in a condo for 10 year and in negotiating my garage with my wife, I earned half for a shop. Relatively new to woodworking. Have made some smaller items in the past, but looking to do more furniture like work. Planer Question. Just picked up a small Stanley Handyman planer, a Sears Craftsman Companion 9 in smooth planer and a Grizzly electric hand planer all in near mint condition for $40 (also had a few brand new Irwin Quick Grip clamps). Good deal? Are these planes useful for smaller work? Not ready to start investing big dollars into planers yet until I can figure out if I’m any good at it!


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ChefHDAN

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#1 posted 01-12-2019 02:36 PM

For $40 you didn’t get screwed, for the whole package. I guessing the handyman is a block plane and the 9” one would be a No.4 plane. In good condition I’d be willing to pay $25 for the pair, but I’m not a dealer or serious collector, all of mine are users. These two are the two most useful planes that you can get, you might want to keep an eye out for a Stanley No.5 Jack Plane that can also be very useful, but be careful. don’t fall down the rabbit hole of buying every plane you see, because all of a sudden you’ll be looking at a shop full of planes wondering what the hell happened – DAMHIKT

Best next step for you is to get equipped and set up for sharpening which is a vital step to minimize the frustration of using a plane. Lots of folks on You-tube with tutorials and many mixed opinions of whether to do it by hand or use a jig, but you know what they say about opinions. I have an ancient handheld electric plane but have never had a project that needed it, I mostly prefer to the better control of using a sharp non-electric one, the electric ones can be very aggressive and IMO are best for rough work.

Clamps, well there is truth that you can never have too many, and I do have some of the Irwin QG clamps that were early acquisitions, but for one handed adjustable clamps, I really prefer the Bessey Duoklamps for superior grip and clamping force.

Welcome to the forum, there’s great knowledge here from some VERY skilled pros that are always helpful, don’t worry about being “good at it” it takes a fair bit of practice but that’s half the fun, I started with a cordless drill and a circular saw, enjoy the journey and make every piece better than your last & you’ll find it rewarding.

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eflanders

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#2 posted 01-12-2019 02:52 PM

Hello. Welcome to Lumberjocks! Congrats on the new home and your new shop space.

I’m not going to get into the “deal” question because it’s relative to you only. At the risk of sounding a bit harsh, here’s my perspective… Whenever I buy a tool, I have a specific job and purpose for it beforehand. I didn’t buy a power hand planer until I started to do really large work in an effort to save build time. It doesnt get used often. I also didn’t buy a smoothing planer until I needed it for a boat build. I’ve always let the work determine the tool need. I almost always paid for the tool purchase with the proceeds from the project being done. If the project was for my own needs, the tool purchase was/is considered an investment into future projects abilities. Power tools and hand tools each have their own place/niche in the shop even though you can do the same thing with each. It boils down to time savings and accuracy. Basically, start building stuff. Let the project guide your decisions on tool needs. If possible, use a tool before buying one at a friends or club.

There is nothing wrong in buying used tools. Especially hand planes. Learn to sharpen and flatten them before you buy any more though. Sharp, flat planes are critical to performance and your enjoyment in using them. Good sharpening supplies are expensive but worth it. Buying good used sharpening stuff is not recommended plus very hard to find.

Again, welcome and congratulations!

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#3 posted 01-12-2019 03:08 PM

Thanks for the info. Will be looking out along the way. I’ve been lucky to get a great start with some donations from friends father who upgraded his shop (Delta scroll saw, table saw, Dewalt compound slider) and picked up some of the essentials. Found some great estate sale items too. Now I’m trying to fill the gaps. Best part is getting my two year old in the shop with me. Already taking an interest. He’s the best sander I have and probably the most expensive!

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#4 posted 01-13-2019 12:54 AM

Eflander, do you have a recommendation on what to buy to sharpen them? I have not put them to wood yet, but I assume they will need work. I’d at least want to look into it. I went for planers specifically because I sanded for what felt like hours getting something flat. My first piece is taking three old soda crates and making them into a buffet with the crates being drawers. I was cutting the crate inserts with a circular saw and they needed some work to clean up. That should be fixed with my table saw not, but the hand planer would have been useful, time saving and more accurate. Shouldn’t be a difficult project, but good for me to work out ideas, do some pocket joinery and hopefully have a functional piece with some antique displays.

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#5 posted 01-14-2019 01:41 AM

FYI: Common protocol says hand held and operated planes are just “planes.” Electric powered hand- held may be “planes” or “planers.” Lunch box planers and big stationary ones are “planers.” And Craftsman “planer/jointers” aren’t planers at all, they’re just jointers, Sears marketing ploys notwithstanding.

Oh, the guy who operates a plane may also be called a “planer.”

Hope this doesn’t start a flame war.

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