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Forum topic by Ilan posted 01-01-2019 11:09 PM 1112 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Ilan

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01-01-2019 11:09 PM

Can I run a 3/16” blade on it?
If not, how difficult is it to replace the guides?


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Kazooman

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#1 posted 01-02-2019 12:43 AM

Don’t own one. The specs say 1/8” minimum. Unless the instruction manual says different, I would go with that.

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Ilan

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#2 posted 01-02-2019 01:19 AM



Don’t own one. The specs say 1/8” minimum. Unless the instruction manual says different, I would go with that.

- Kazooman

You can run 1/8 with the optional small blade guides. I am asking about the stock guides.

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Sawdust35

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#3 posted 01-02-2019 12:26 PM

I have a Laguna 14bx and use the Laguna 3/16” blade on the stock ceramic guides. Haven’t had an issue. That being said, I’ll consider getting the phenolic small blade guides that Laguna sells at some point. The Laguna “Mini Guide” is easy to install and no tools are needed.

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Ilan

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#4 posted 01-02-2019 04:17 PM



I have a Laguna 14bx and use the Laguna 3/16” blade on the stock ceramic guides. Haven’t had an issue. That being said, I’ll consider getting the phenolic small blade guides that Laguna sells at some point. The Laguna “Mini Guide” is easy to install and no tools are needed.

- Sawdust35

Thank you, Sawdust. Are you happy with the saw? Why would you get the mini guides if the 3/16” is running fine on the stock guides? I am close to buying one (looking to find the best deals) but I want to hear more from people who own it.

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AHuxley

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#5 posted 01-02-2019 04:55 PM

The general rule is anything under 1/4” you want to use side guides that are softer than the teeth. There just isn’t much beam strength in a 3/16” blade to prevent deflection and since one would be using a 3/16” blade for tight curves there is a lot of twisting forces going on. It will work fine until it doesn’t. Over the years I have had several saws with Laguna guides and 1/4” is the smallest I would recommend on the stock guides. One of the best guide options for small blades is the Carter Stabilizer, it allows the blade to pivot on the back edge. It allows for tighter radius cuts for a given blade size and has nothing to contact and dull the teeth or ruin the set.

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Sawdust35

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#6 posted 01-02-2019 05:02 PM

If I were to use the 3/16” blade a lot I can see the ceramic guide wearing down overtime and a rut forming. I mostly do resawing for the time being. The mini guides should wear evenly with the small blades. I like the machine a lot, but this is my first bandsaw so someone with experience with other saws would have a better perspective. So far it has worked very well for me and I’d buy it again in hindsight. Also, the accessories I have purchased are the mobile base and light. They both work as intended. The resaw king blade Laguna makes has performed really well, in my experience.

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Ilan

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#7 posted 01-04-2019 04:26 AM



If I were to use the 3/16” blade a lot I can see the ceramic guide wearing down overtime and a rut forming. I mostly do resawing for the time being. The mini guides should wear evenly with the small blades. I like the machine a lot, but this is my first bandsaw so someone with experience with other saws would have a better perspective. So far it has worked very well for me and I’d buy it again in hindsight. Also, the accessories I have purchased are the mobile base and light. They both work as intended. The resaw king blade Laguna makes has performed really well, in my experience.

- Sawdust35

Did you get a chance to try the Carter stabilzer instead of the mini guides? that might work better. the demo looks really good. I just don’t know how will it work with the laguna.

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AHuxley

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#8 posted 01-04-2019 12:25 PM

The Stabilizer will work as well on your Laguna (see below) as it does any other small wheeled saw with a pronounced crown on the wheels, that is to say it will work very well. Search for reviews of the Stabilizer and I think you will see it is a near-universally liked solution to small blade guides. The only real downside to the Stabilizer is the extra time it takes to switch on and off.

*The stabilizer works best on small wheels with tall crowns because small blades work best on this type of wheel arrangement. It won’t work as well on larger wheels with no crown like the Laguna Italian saws and other flat tired Euro saws because very small blades don’t track as well on them.

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Sawdust35

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#9 posted 01-04-2019 01:51 PM


Did you get a chance to try the Carter stabilzer instead of the mini guides? that might work better. the demo looks really good. I just don t know how will it work with the laguna.

- Ilan

I haven’t tried the carter kit for my saw. So far the stock guides are working well and they are easy to adjust if needed. So I don’t see a reason to replace them. Once the ceramic is worn to the point of replacement ($100) I’ll see how much the carter guides cost. The carter guides are $274 currently. I watched the carter guide upgrade video from “The Wood Whisperer” and I was impressed.

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AlaskaGuy

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#10 posted 01-04-2019 06:04 PM

Carter stabilizer works great for narrow blades even my 1/16th blade. So ease to setup too.

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#11 posted 01-04-2019 06:24 PM


Did you get a chance to try the Carter stabilzer instead of the mini guides? that might work better. the demo looks really good. I just don t know how will it work with the laguna.

- Ilan

I haven’t tried the carter kit for my saw. So far the stock guides are working well and they are easy to adjust if needed. So I don’t see a reason to replace them. Once the ceramic is worn to the point of replacement ($100) I’ll see how much the carter guides cost. The carter guides are $274 currently. I watched the carter guide upgrade video from “The Wood Whisperer” and I was impressed.

- Sawdust35

The Carter Stabilizer is not a replacement for the regular guides but a replacement for the upper guides for using very narrow blades. Many including myself would consider the Carter replacement guides a downgrade on that saw. Note the cost of replacing bearings on bearing type guides like the Carters will likely cast as much or more over time than the replacement ceramic guide blocks, as they last much longer than bearings.

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AlaskaGuy

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#12 posted 01-04-2019 06:43 PM


Did you get a chance to try the Carter stabilzer instead of the mini guides? that might work better. the demo looks really good. I just don t know how will it work with the laguna.

- Ilan

I haven’t tried the carter kit for my saw. So far the stock guides are working well and they are easy to adjust if needed. So I don’t see a reason to replace them. Once the ceramic is worn to the point of replacement ($100) I’ll see how much the carter guides cost. The carter guides are $274 currently. I watched the carter guide upgrade video from “The Wood Whisperer” and I was impressed.

- Sawdust35

The Carter Stabilizer is not a replacement for the regular guides but a replacement for the upper guides for using very narrow blades. Many including myself would consider the Carter replacement guides a downgrade on that saw. Note the cost of replacing bearings on bearing type guides like the Carters will likely cast as much or more over time than the replacement ceramic guide blocks, as they last much longer than bearings.

- AHuxley


Who said the carter stabilizer was a replacement for the upper guides? It additional option you can use for narrow blades. Use it for it’s intended purpose and go back the normal guides for wider blades. I’ve had the carter stabilizer for many years and I don’t see it as an downgrade in the least. It’s really not a downgrade or an downgrade it just an option to use with very narrow blade and it work great.

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Ilan

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#13 posted 01-04-2019 08:51 PM

Alaskan, What saw do you have the Carter stabilizer on?

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AHuxley

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#14 posted 01-04-2019 09:48 PM



Who said the carter stabilizer was a replacement for the upper guides? It additional option you can use for narrow blades. Use it for it s intended purpose and go back the normal guides for wider blades. I ve had the carter stabilizer for many years and I don t see it as an downgrade in the least. It s really not a downgrade or an downgrade it just an option to use with very narrow blade and it work great.

- AlaskaGuy

Read Sawdust 35’s post. He was talking about the Carter retrofit guide kit and seemed to be confusing it with the Carter Stabilizer.

My post is what I meant to say, the Carter Stabilizer is a replacement for the upper guides when you are using narrow blades (the lower guides stay in place but are backed off). My point about a downgrade was again directed to Sawdust 35’s post about the Carter Retrofit guides (which I quoted) compared to the Laguna guides. If you read the full thread I am the one that first suggested the Carter Stabilizer instead of the Laguna Mini Guides obviously I thought it was a better option.

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AlaskaGuy

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#15 posted 01-04-2019 10:07 PM


Alaskan, What saw do you have the Carter stabilizer on?

- Ilan

Walker-Turner 16”

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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