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Forum topic by bd1886 posted 12-31-2018 05:03 AM 1452 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bd1886

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12-31-2018 05:03 AM

Just getting back into construction after a decade away and finding my drills to be not even close to adequate after using my son’s 18v lithium ion set. (Whoa…..different “no hiccup” movement through projects!)

Those of you who have used the “Milwaukee Surge”? At what level, of demanding use, do you find them wanting? (Topical restoration based guy here but do dive into structure repair some.) Hydraulic drivers look impressive for lower noise, can be tiny, and have a lot of ooomph for that size! Appreciate it.


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#1 posted 12-31-2018 05:15 AM

what the hell are you asking?

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#2 posted 12-31-2018 05:51 AM

you mean pneumatic impact drivers?

they are good for what they do, but in woodworking, you’d find yourself using drills more often than impact drivers. 1/2” are most common as they can take bigger bits.

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#3 posted 12-31-2018 06:04 AM

Milwaukee Fuel impact drivers work well for me, can’t help with the newer Surge impacts though.

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bd1886

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#4 posted 12-31-2018 06:43 AM


you mean pneumatic impact drivers?

they are good for what they do, but in woodworking, you d find yourself using drills more often than impact drivers. 1/2” are most common as they can take bigger bits.

These newer impact drills have hydrolic fluid (inside the impact chamber) to cushion the noise of impact, inside the drill, and relies more on a sustained lower torque rather than high “peak” torque.
A lot of work will be on sites where ether there is no power (or it being difficult to access) and overhead work at that…..weight and fatigue is an issue.

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#5 posted 12-31-2018 07:14 AM



what the hell are you asking?

- pottz

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#6 posted 12-31-2018 07:23 AM

This should explain it, at least part of it.

https://youtu.be/IMXIFmdQX0o

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bd1886

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#7 posted 12-31-2018 07:26 AM

Where does this small yet powerful tool fall short? (Not a lot of info showing where this tool begins to struggle and just stepping into understanding lithium ion’s capabilities.)

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#8 posted 12-31-2018 09:03 AM


Where does this small yet powerful


Where does this small yet powerful tool fall short? (Not a lot of info showing where this tool begins to struggle and just stepping into understanding lithium ion’s capabilities.)

- bd1886

Just go buy one (not that expensive) and get first hand information. Only you can interpret what you want to know.

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#9 posted 12-31-2018 12:08 PM



Where does this small yet powerful tool fall short? (Not a lot of info showing where this tool begins to struggle and just stepping into understanding lithium ion’s capabilities.)

- bd1886

There is actually a ton of comparisons with real-world tests available to compare brushed to brushless to brushless hydraulic impact drivers.

This is a test with the first Ridgid Stealth Force Protoolreviews

Also, search hydraulic impact driver comparison on youtube and you will get hours of comparison content.

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#10 posted 12-31-2018 03:34 PM

The last generation m12 impacts have enough tq to snap the heads off spax 3.5” washer head construction screws. I like the m12 for most things in the shop and the m18 if I need more power or longer battery life.

The impacts don’t fall short of anything.

The surge.. well I haven’t seen the need for one as I don’t mind the noise of the regular impacts

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#11 posted 12-31-2018 03:42 PM

This is a review of the little brother. it sounds like the hydraulic mechanism wears out relatively quickly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqMGo-AxVc

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#12 posted 12-31-2018 04:18 PM

It’s not the Milwaukee, but I just got the Ryobi Quietstrike hydraulic pulse driver to replace my 15 year old cordless impact driver.

I tried a whole bunch of larger screws (3”, 4”) and drove some 1/4 and 3/8 lag bolts. The new one has slightly less torque than the old impact driver, which fits with what I expected, but did have adequate torque to drive all of the things I tested. But man, it was soo much quieter than the original it’s not even fair.

I’d go ahead and get one to try it out. Even if it’s not the ultimate drive anything tool for you, you’ll be happy with it for the 90% of things it can do quietly.

Mike

-- No honey, that's not new, I've had that forever......

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