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Forum topic by Iowa1991 posted 12-25-2018 03:01 PM 723 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Iowa1991

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12-25-2018 03:01 PM

Topic tags/keywords: jointer question joining

I’ve been watching for used jointers in my area, i feel its the next tool for me to upgrade. Recently found a Delta 37-196 for $650, says it hasn’t been used much and in good shape. The price seems high, opinions please.


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TheDane

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#1 posted 12-25-2018 03:36 PM

$650 is way too much for that machine … I have seen them listed in the $250 to $400 range.

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#2 posted 12-25-2018 08:18 PM

I agree with above, that is basically the price of a brand new Grizzly G0813 with most of the shipping.

In like new condition (including manuals, all accessories, zero rust, etc) I wouldn’t expect to pay a price of more that $400 and it would have to be in perfect shape. But even then I’d have to really need the jointer and there would have to be limited pickings from the local Craigslist and woodworking clubs.

If you’ve done your due diligence and spent some time checking Craigslist daily for 3 or 4 weeks (or more) and have asked around at your local wood supply place or woodworking club and jointers are hard to find in your region, then go take a look, but make clear from the beginning that $650 is quite a bit more than you’re willing to spend. Send him the link to the Grizzly jointer @ $570 so he can understand. For a basic 6” jointer, the Delta name doesn’t carry a significant premium in my opinion.

He says good shape and little use, so check it over for any rust, make sure the tables move easy, check for a cupped fence/tables, etc. If he still lets you come look after you’ve told him you won’t pay the $650, then make an offer you think is fair after looking it over.

Keep in mind that parts for these can be hard to get, including some of the critical items like the special bolts that hold the knives tight. If it’s got little use, he may never have changed the knives and those bolts are well known for being pretty hard to get loose, resulting in them rounding off when trying to loosen them. Ask him about knife changes and check for rounded bolt heads.

Mike

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Holbs

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#3 posted 12-25-2018 08:29 PM

here is comparison of same jointer model seeking to be sold here on LJ back in 2011:
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/31138 and one that is well taking care of with a shop fox mobile base!

Around these parts, 6” jointers of any brand go around $150-$250. Unless powermatic (x5) or parallelogram beds.

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Iowa1991

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#4 posted 12-25-2018 08:45 PM

I thought $650 was high. The ad does say the knives haven’t been changed. Haven’t seen any good ones in my area yet (I really don’t want to drive 3-4 hours away). I guess I’ll have to keep looking. There is also a DJ 15 for $525 two hours away. I’m not sure if I want to hassle with the 220 Volt though unless maybe it’s a great machine at a great price.

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Mike_D_S

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#5 posted 12-25-2018 09:41 PM

If it was me, I would probably do one of two things:

1. Keep looking, patience is often rewarded on CL, but you have to be diligent about searching in the morning and afternoon.

2. Just bite the bullet and order a new one. You’ll have to call and check likely in stock dates, but you can get a good 6” jointer under $750 brand new if you’re ok with waiting and the extra cash.

At the end of the day, a jointer is a fairly basic machine and there’s not a lot of difference between the name brands and the budget ones.

-- No honey, that's not new, I've had that forever......

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Iowa1991

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#6 posted 12-26-2018 02:40 AM

I think I’m going to keep looking. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem that they come up often in my area. I need a decent jointer but I don’t really want to spend the coin on a new one

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Mike_D_S

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#7 posted 12-26-2018 04:20 PM

Totally understand, the Houston area has deals on CL, but you have to be patient. Though it was four or five years ago, it took about 3 months of serious looking to find a jointer at a price I could live with and in good enough shape to actually buy. But I was eventually rewarded with a Delta 37-190 for $150 that needed just a minor amount of tweaking to be a good machine.

Mike

-- No honey, that's not new, I've had that forever......

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#8 posted 12-26-2018 04:30 PM

THIS is on our CL this morning :<))

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Iowa1991

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#9 posted 12-31-2018 01:50 AM

A 6 inch cal hawk just came up on CL $125. I don’t know why but the fence looks wonky. Never heard of cal hawk, any opinions?

https://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/tls/d/cedar-rapids-cal-hawk-6-inch-jointer/6783551249.html

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GR8HUNTER

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#10 posted 12-31-2018 02:20 AM



A 6 inch cal hawk just came up on CL $125. I don’t know why but the fence looks wonky. Never heard of cal hawk, any opinions?

https://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/tls/d/cedar-rapids-cal-hawk-6-inch-jointer/6783551249.html

- Iowa1991


take a board along to try it out :<)) might be a great deal

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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William Shelley

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#11 posted 12-31-2018 03:30 AM



A 6 inch cal hawk just came up on CL $125. I don’t know why but the fence looks wonky. Never heard of cal hawk, any opinions?

https://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/tls/d/cedar-rapids-cal-hawk-6-inch-jointer/6783551249.html

- Iowa1991

The fence looks wonky because it’s an end-mount instead of a center-mount fence. It clamps down to the end of the infeed table. It looks like a cast iron fence instead of an aluminum or stamped steel one, so that’s a plus. I’d go for it, if you decide you want to get something else later, you could easily resell that cal-hawk model.

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Mike_D_S

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#12 posted 12-31-2018 03:38 AM

I agree with Iowa, there are a bunch of basic clones of name brand jointers marketed under different names, but if it passes the basic tests, then it’s probably ok.

Things to check:
1. Is it rusted a bunch inside the base and on the bottoms of the castings. A little surface rust will clean up, but look for serious rust.
2. Does the motor turn easily by hand and does it run pretty quietly. If it makes some noise, pull the belt off and run it again. If the motor is quiet, the head may need bearings. That’s not a disaster, but should factor into the price for maybe $20 or so. If the motor makes noise without the belt on, I’d probably pass.
3. Bring a good straight edge and square. Check the tables and fence to see if they’re fairly flat. Also check the fence to table for square and try to adjust it to square if its not. If you can’t get the fence square or the tables are seriously warped, then it’s a pass.
4. Move the infeed table up and down and make sure it moves fairly easily, then check the outfeed table as well.
5. Last thing is to joint a board and see how it does. There just aren’t that many parts on one of these, so if all above checks out and it joints ok, then it’s probably worth the $125 (though I’d offer $100 on principle).

Mike

-- No honey, that's not new, I've had that forever......

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Mike_D_S

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#13 posted 12-31-2018 03:40 AM

The fence not sitting flat on the tables was bothering me at first, but I checked some other images on google of cal hawk jointers and this seems to be right. The small tab on the bottom of the fence hold it off the table. Since it’s end mount, I’m assuming this is to clear when the infeed table is all the way down.

-- No honey, that's not new, I've had that forever......

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