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Forum topic by Gerald Thompson posted 12-23-2018 08:33 PM 448 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Gerald Thompson

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12-23-2018 08:33 PM

I had to replace the insert for the table. I purchased Carter inserts and they were just a split hair too large in diameter. I messed with one for a long time and it fit the hole in diameter but was a hair too thick. I tried sanding it down but gave up.
I ordered new inserts for the BS. They fit okay but are a little loose and do not have the little tab to fit into the insert profile. I carefully used the BS blade to cut the slot and it was dead on.
Using an 1/8th inch blade with the Carter blade stabiliser I proceeded to cut out a pattern using poplar. I had cut a couple of 5/16th radi and was following a long slight curve and things went bang.
The blade came off. After looking things over the blade had cut into the insert. It seems to me the insert could well have been the culprit due to a loose fit and sans tab. The table was closed as tight as the side slot pin would allow.
The tension was OK. The band saw is a made in the USA and purchased around 1988. Who makes inserts that are not generic, fit and have the tab?

Thank you.

-- Jerry


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MrRon

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#1 posted 12-24-2018 12:31 AM

Why would you buy an insert when they are so easy to make. Just get some aluminum the same thickness as the old insert; trace the outline from the old insert and cut with tin snips and a little filing until it fits. Just cut the slot first. You can even make them from wood or plastic.

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#2 posted 12-24-2018 01:36 AM

The inserts for the Delta has been the same size/thickness since they were introduced decades ago, and other Delta machines use the same size as well (such as my Scroll Saw). As Ron mentioned, they are pretty easy to make if you are up to it, and can be made out of many different materials. Regarding the ones that you bought that were a bit loose and missing the ‘tab’ – all of the factory inserts I have are just a hair loose, and the ‘tab’ is simply a dimple punched into the edge. It can be replicated using a simple pin punch and hammer.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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AHuxley

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#3 posted 12-24-2018 04:35 AM

Note that especially tight scroll cutting especially with a Stabilizer will allow the blade to cut into the insert if you just have made a ZCI cut into it. I only use an insert with no extra clearance when cutting straight.

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TDSpade

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#4 posted 12-24-2018 06:27 AM

I have the Delta 14” Platinum Edition bandsaw model 28-254. I had the same problem with the Carter inserts. but I lived with them until I used them up over time.

A couple of months ago I ordered a different brand from woodworkers supply. And they were a very good fit. Make sure that you get the yellow ones.

https://woodworker.com/band-saw-zero-clearance-inserts-yellow-mssu-934-890.asp?search=934890&searchmode=2

The white ones for the jet were alright for the diameter, but a little thin.

Also as a side note I just did a tuneup on the delta, replaced tires, realigned the table, etc..
I had noticed that the blade was not center to the insert and realigning the table fixed this.

-- For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert.

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#5 posted 12-24-2018 10:25 AM

Thank you everyone. I need to widen the insert kerf.

-- Jerry

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