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Forum topic by SirSeth posted 12-22-2018 08:18 PM 913 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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SirSeth

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12-22-2018 08:18 PM

Topic tags/keywords: lathe oliver no 55 old lathe turning oliver banjo

I have inherited a woodworking program at my school that has been inactive for nearly 30 years. There were two lathes worth saving. The first was a Yates American J-170 which was in good shape—up and running.

This second lathe is an 8” Oliver No 55 from 1910. It doesn’t have a banjo and I was wondering if any of you have recommendations on what would fit this lathe or if fabricating is a viable option. We have a limited budget and so many other needs, so I’d like an inexpensive workable solution if possible.

Thanks for the feedback turners. The kids have made mallets and pens and are having a blast on the lathe.

Merry Christmas all! Seth!

-- What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?


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#1 posted 12-23-2018 02:14 PM

Went here looking for information and could find very little on that lathe.

http://vintagemachinery.org/MfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=609&tab=4

http://vintagemachinery.org/MfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=609&tab=3

Did find this publication not sure would be much help didn’t see specs listed.

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/609/1895.pdf

Might try posting at their classified section to find something that might work.

-- Bill

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#2 posted 12-23-2018 04:21 PM

Thanks Bill!
Yep. Not a lot of info out there. I think I need to measure the gap and find something that will work (if I can find something that works). Not sure it’s totally worth the effort and time, but I have a weakness for cast iron. ;)

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#3 posted 12-23-2018 05:00 PM

“Edicate” me! What in blazes in a “banjo”? I play one, but that surely can’t be what you are talking about!

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#4 posted 12-23-2018 06:14 PM

Try contacting Eagle Machinery, maybe they’ll still have some parts. Or look at retrofitting a Grizzly part…might be the cheapest option. Good luck

Planeman40, part that holds the tool rest

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#5 posted 12-23-2018 08:46 PM

It looks to me like it would be fairly easy to adapt the tool rest (& “banjo”) from another brand of lathe. The banjo simply has to span the lathe bed and support the tool rest out to a distance equal to the swing. The hole for the shaft of the tool rest has to match the shaft size of an available tool rest. Yes, it would be nice to have easy operating levers for locking in place, but ordinary bolts could suffice.

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#6 posted 12-23-2018 09:03 PM

Banjo simply just another name for tool rest base, assume also need a tool rest.

I am assuming you measured from top of the ways (bed) to center of lathe spindle. Have you measured the gap between the ways and thickness of ways?

Can find lot of 12”, 11”, and 10” retro lathes that might work if cut tool rest post. Some style would work regardless on the gap others might have to modify size of the bottom steel which holds base in place.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362449244238

http://www.old-woodworking-tools.net/delta-1460-wood-lathe-banjo.html

Lot show up on e-bay but sold already and others available cost a lot.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=For+Vintage+Lathe+Tool+Rest&FORM=RESTAB

A lot of after market tool rest both new & used just be sure of tool rest will fit the base you buy.

Good luck with it!

-- Bill

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#7 posted 12-24-2018 07:36 PM



Thanks Bill!
Yep. Not a lot of info out there. I think I need to measure the gap and find something that will work (if I can find something that works). Not sure it s totally worth the effort and time, but I have a weakness for cast iron. ;)

- SirSeth

Most banjos will fit if long enough for the swing. Might have to modify the hold down mechanism to fit the ways. As stated Grizzly will sell parts of any model lathe. The gap is just to allow the hold down bolt to pass through the ways.
You can make tool rests from round bar stock that fitd the banjo hole welded into a “Tee”.

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SirSeth

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#8 posted 12-30-2018 12:05 AM

Thanks for all the feedback! I have not thought to check back until now. I’ll measure tomorrow but I think if I find something I can modify it to work. I have a couple of tool rests that could work.

I suppose I could fabricate a wood/metal banjo until I find something. I don’t really want to put a lot of money into it and have toyed with just selling as for someone else to figure out.

-- What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?

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#9 posted 12-30-2018 10:59 PM

Try Redmond Machine in Georgia, 770-262-1973, there is also a used machine supplier, Pleasant Street Machinery in DeKalb, IL, but I don’t have the number. I have purchased parts from both with good results. Most complete banjos, no tool rest, go for $175-$200.

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