LumberJocks

Upgrade table saw or add a new jointer to garage shop?

  • Advertise with us

« back to Power Tools, Hardware and Accessories forum

Forum topic by joeIWD posted 12-20-2018 03:43 PM 2563 views 0 times favorited 27 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View joeIWD's profile

joeIWD

4 posts in 354 days


12-20-2018 03:43 PM

Hello all,

I am an amateur wood worker that has been working out of my garage for about a year and a half. When I started, I bought crappy tools in case I didn’t enjoy wood working or wasn’t good at it. I have a table saw ($99 porter cable), harbor freight 12” compound miter saw, ridgid 13” thickness planer as well as a porter cable circular saw and other assorted hand tools. Turns out I love it and am getting better at it all the time so I’m ready to upgrade.

Due to the kind of projects I plan to start working with and a recent source of rough cut lumber, I am considering buying a jointer. The problem is that I also think my table saw needs an upgrade; the vibrations are horrible, the fence is very difficult to keep aligned, and the working surface is a bit cramped. Since I am sharing the garage, I have decided the biggest table saw I would go with is one of the hybrid style saws, i.e. ridgid 4512, delta 36-725 or grizzly g0771/g0751. Perhaps there is another that is similar to these in quality that I have not listed. I understand two of these are in a class of their own, while the grizzly stands out. My budget is just under 1K, but going with the delta or ridgid might allow me to pick up both the jointer and a new table saw. So which should I upgrade should I focus on? Thanks a lot for your help!


27 replies so far

View trhoppe's profile

trhoppe

9 posts in 372 days


#1 posted 12-20-2018 03:48 PM

New table saw 100%. You can make a jointer sled really easily ($10 – $50 depending on niceness), and between that and a planer, you’re good to go.

The jointer is more of a convenience/speed factor than a necessary tool. Once you have a badass table saw, and decide you want some efficiency, grab a jointer.

But you can do all of the same things as a jointer, in a touch more time, with a table saw/sled/planer. And have a badass table saw for all the other tasks

View Sludgeguy's profile

Sludgeguy

57 posts in 684 days


#2 posted 12-20-2018 04:14 PM

If you watch Craigslist and are patient I think you can pick up both. I shoot for a saw with a cast iron table and an 8” jointer. I picked up an older 6” Jet jointer for $100 that’s still in use today.

View Sludgeguy's profile

Sludgeguy

57 posts in 684 days


#3 posted 12-20-2018 04:24 PM

I just checked my local Craigslist. Ridgid contractor’s table saw with cast iron table plus a 6” Ridgid jointer for $850. Both look clean. You’ll have $150 left over for a nice thin kerf blade. I’ll think you’ll enjoy milling your own lumber. Good luck.

View jonah's profile

jonah

2092 posts in 3860 days


#4 posted 12-20-2018 05:05 PM

$850 for a Ridgid contractor saw and jointer is not a good deal, by the way. The R4512 is ~$500 new, and the jointer was similar, though I think it’s discontinued. Most of the contractor saws sell for $200-$300 used, and I’d expect about the same for a used jointer.

View Aj2's profile

Aj2

2565 posts in 2360 days


#5 posted 12-20-2018 05:15 PM

Get a jointer table saws are stupid. :)
Unless you like making your projects out of plywood then get a stupid tabkesaw. :(

-- Aj

View joeIWD's profile

joeIWD

4 posts in 354 days


#6 posted 12-20-2018 05:17 PM

OK, thanks a lot. I was thinking along the same lines that a better table saw is the better upgrade route. Now just need to decide on which one to get!

View TungOil's profile

TungOil

1355 posts in 1057 days


#7 posted 12-20-2018 05:43 PM

Accurate Woodworking from rough cut lumber absolutely starts with a jointer. Without a flat reference face you cannot achieve accurate dimensions or joints. And before someone mentions the “planer sled” option forget that, it’s a makeshift work-around that works marginally at best. Get the jointer.

I agree with the advice to watcH CL for deals. Nothing wrong with starting out with a 6” jointer (contrary to popular myth). If you can find (and have room for) an 8” jointer all the better.

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

View Monty151's profile

Monty151

83 posts in 403 days


#8 posted 12-20-2018 06:40 PM

I second going with the jointer. If you can still manage with your current TS a jointer will open up more possibilities. As some have suggested Craigslist is a good resource for used tools to fit within you budget.

Happy building and stay safe

View MrFid's profile

MrFid

897 posts in 2466 days


#9 posted 12-20-2018 07:01 PM

$1000 should cover both machines if you’re smart about it pretty easily. I bought a Ridgid Table saw (like the 4512) on Craigslist for $250 or so, and a 6 inch Jet jointer for about the same. They have both served me quite well so far. Ideally I’d like them both to be upgraded at some point but for now they are both terrific.
One point about planer sleds is that while in theory they seem great, I found the one I made to be finicky and troublesome. It quickly led to my purchase of a jointer hahah! Could be just me though. I know some people use them without trouble.

EDIT: If you post a general location there are people on here who will scope out CL deals for you based on the info you’ve provided.

-- Bailey F - Eastern Mass.

View joeIWD's profile

joeIWD

4 posts in 354 days


#10 posted 12-20-2018 07:14 PM

I’m scouring craigslist right now, I’m also looking through facebook. I saw a 6” rikon jointer the other day for 280, I’m so pissed I hesitated. It was sold in less than a day. Just found a ridgid r4512 for 425 in close to new condition. That might be the one.

I’m in Tampa, FL if anyone has one of these machines and is looking to upgrade!

Thanks for the advice

View bondogaposis's profile

bondogaposis

5570 posts in 2913 days


#11 posted 12-20-2018 07:30 PM

Upgrade the saw first. You can joint one edge well enough with hand planes to run through the saw easily, I did it for many years before I bought a jointer.

-- Bondo Gaposis

View Andybb's profile (online now)

Andybb

2226 posts in 1165 days


#12 posted 12-20-2018 07:44 PM

IMO it’s a toss up. You’re gonna want both eventually so it depends on which one you CURRENTLY feel you need the most. Everybody will have an opinion but only you know what’s in that little woodworkers head of yours and what projects you envision doing in the near future. Then you can post the same question as it refers to bandsaws. :-)

Personally, I’d upgrade the table saw but that is only because I have no idea what you want to do with it and know what I’d do.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

View Andybb's profile (online now)

Andybb

2226 posts in 1165 days


#13 posted 12-20-2018 07:50 PM

.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

View MrFid's profile

MrFid

897 posts in 2466 days


#14 posted 12-20-2018 07:57 PM

I’d aim for that one:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/tls/d/grizzly-6-in-jointer/6769601253.html

-- Bailey F - Eastern Mass.

View Sludgeguy's profile

Sludgeguy

57 posts in 684 days


#15 posted 12-20-2018 08:50 PM

If you’re in Tampa be patient…good deals are pretty prevalent there. Check Craigslist in Lakeland too.

showing 1 through 15 of 27 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com