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Forum topic by Spikes posted 12-19-2018 04:07 AM 545 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-19-2018 04:07 AM

Hi,

I need to make some under bed drawers and I’d love to have them float and use wooden drawer slider. Matthias Wander has an awesome page with lots and lots of options, but unfortunately I didn’t find much in terms of dimensions and strength (maybe it’s on another page I could not find).

https://woodgears.ca/drawers/

I’m gonna use a groove with a stick protruding from the drawer, the question is, how wide/tall should be the groove and how wide/tall should be the runner? Also how loose should be the fit? should the runner be 1/32 thinner? The drawers will mostly hold clothes, so not a lot of weight. Based on Wandel’s page and the budget constraints I’ll use softwood (fir) for the support with the groove and maple for the runner on the drawer.

any input on size or feedback on anything else I’m missing would be much appreciated. Here’s a pic of what I’m planning on doing, altho this could be changed to be 1x material with two sticks glued to it to save material and work, not sure, but should give the idea.

thanks,

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#1 posted 12-19-2018 03:57 PM

Do they have to be drawers on slides? Simple boxes with casters underneath would be easier.

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#2 posted 12-19-2018 06:29 PM

yes it’s preferable, altho I will try to go back and ask again, they had concerns about dust cleaning. That said, I can see myself wanting something like that for another project soon so I’d still like to figure it out.

I found some links from fww, but they are all behind a paywall and not clear if they had dimensions… sooner or later I may just get a membership. The only other article with measuramentes is this:

https://sawdustgirl.com/wood-drawer-runners/

there she’s using slightly less than 1/2×1/4 runners with 1/2×3/16 groove it seems, which may work for the very shallow drawers she’s making but don’t think it’d work for me. If I had to guess I’d say 1/2” x 1/2” groove at least with the runner 1/2×5/8 with 1/8 groove in the drawer (seems a better design instead of just hanging the runner, especially for when the drawer is fully out).

thoughts?

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#3 posted 12-19-2018 06:30 PM

For that size drawer wood slides may not be the best option but 3/4”x3/4” should be enough. I would also add add some high density plastic strips (UMHW plastic) between the weight bearing parts to make it easier to slide the drawers.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#4 posted 12-19-2018 06:40 PM

LesB, is there a design you’d recommend for floating drawers like that instead of wood slides? would you build a whole carcass around it to slide on better? I’m trying to save money so already putting in the hardwood for the sliders increase the cost, plus UMHW it may be cheaper to make a carcass around it with more fir.

thanks,

-- Don't worry about making progress, worry about practicing. If you practice you will make progress even if you don't want to.

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#5 posted 12-20-2018 01:24 AM

I was thinking of the UMHW tape which is only about 1/16’ of an inch thick and adhesive on one side, not the solid UMHW strips. Should have been more clear.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#6 posted 12-20-2018 04:06 AM

ah, I see, did not even know such a thing existed. If I apply that UMHW tape do I still need to make the runner from hardwood? it’s gonna be substantially cheaper to put tape all around the doug fir than buying even poplar I think.

Also I’m not fixed on the design, I just can’t come up with any other solution that allows me to keep the drawers floating (I checked and they want that, not on wheels) without turning the under-bed into a big box looking thing and the ball-bearings sliders are just too expensive at that length, it’d cost more to put 3 pairs on 3 drawers than to build the entire bed in fir. However the cheap plastic ones seem to require to be mounted at the bottom of the drawer and won’t work at the top.

-- Don't worry about making progress, worry about practicing. If you practice you will make progress even if you don't want to.

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#7 posted 12-20-2018 03:21 PM

I have made several sets of the wood slides in Issue 143 of Fine Woodworking. They work quite well. However, you will need to modify your design a bit to accommodate them. You can make them to accommodate most any drawer loads you have.

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