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Kaminsknator

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12-10-2018 08:10 PM

I’ve just picked up the harbor freight 6” jointer and currently own a variable speed 6” Delta bench top jointer. My goal is to have a helical cutting jointer and as I understand it the longer the bed the better the jointer. I picked up the harbor freight because it is much longer than the bench. I couldnt get good results with it because the blades were incredibly dull. I’m going to buy a shelix head for it and sell the delta but want to see if anyone has any feedback about this upgrade or the long term reliability of the Central machinery jointer.


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#1 posted 12-10-2018 09:12 PM

Unless you’re face jointing highly figured lumber i highly recommend you get some fresh knife and give it a run first before investing in a shelix head.
I’ve never had my hands on that particular jointer but I assume it’s a Taiwanese clone and should work just fine

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#2 posted 12-10-2018 09:27 PM

Sound advice. I thought I looked into blades already and found them for 70$ but looking again they can be had for 25$. Maybe I’ll order a set.

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#3 posted 12-10-2018 09:42 PM

Not trying to do a commercial here but I highly recommend you take a look at the jointer knives at Holbren, https://www.holbren.com/high-speed-steel-jointer-planer-knife-sets/ . They are top quality and very affordable.

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#4 posted 12-10-2018 09:48 PM

Five star reviewed sharpening shop in town says they charge 60¢ an inch to sharpen jointer knives. At 12$ I’m going to drop them off and see if the machine works with a fresh edge.

Knives aside worthwhile machine to upgrade to a shelix head?

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#5 posted 12-10-2018 11:12 PM



Knives aside worthwhile machine to upgrade to a shelix head?

- Kaminsknator


Only you can answer that question. If it’s made in Taiwan, chances are it’s just as good as the others from Taiwan, which is pretty darn good! There’s not much going on with a jointer, if the castings are sound, tables flat, fence solid (and able to be squared to the bed), then sure it’s probably worth it – IF you face joint highly figured wood lol.
Otherwise buy a spare set or two of knives at $20-25ea and keep spares on hand ready to go.

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#6 posted 12-10-2018 11:17 PM

Don’t bother sharpening the blades that came with it. They’re probably junky steel. Get some decent quality ones and use those.

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#7 posted 12-11-2018 01:00 AM

Ha a Shelix in a horror freight jointer sound like a pearl handle on a pick. Save your money for a real jointer

-- Aj

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#8 posted 12-11-2018 02:25 AM

All great advice. I’ll have to agree the blades are most likely garbage. I see the point of just doing the blades until I run into an issue where I need a helical head.

I’m thinking a jointer is so simple if the castings are level and fence square what else can go wrong? I’m only invested 100$. Helical head is 310$. Where else could I get a 42” helical jointer for 410$?

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#9 posted 12-11-2018 02:50 AM

Simple machine until you start looking at quality control, bearings and materials used. Do you think the quality of the HF is the same as a Jet, Grizzly, etc.

Do you really think the HF blades are good steel.

I would not put an expensive head in a HF tool. Buy some good blades and try them and see how it runs and then decide.

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#10 posted 12-11-2018 02:59 AM

Your right 410 is a small price to see how imprecise a simple machine can be.
Doing is learning
Let us know how it turns out I don’t mind being wrong.

-- Aj

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#11 posted 12-11-2018 03:01 AM



Not trying to do a commercial here but I highly recommend you take a look at the jointer knives at Holbren, https://www.holbren.com/high-speed-steel-jointer-planer-knife-sets/ . They are top quality and very affordable.

- syenefarmer

This in my opinion

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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Kaminsknator

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#12 posted 12-11-2018 03:21 AM



Your right 410 is a small price to see how imprecise a simple machine can be.
Doing is learning
Let us know how it turns out I don’t mind being wrong.

- Aj2

Thats my favorite view point. Someone once said only a rich man can afford cheap tools. I’ll get the 20$ blades and go from there. :)

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#13 posted 12-11-2018 04:19 AM


Not trying to do a commercial here but I highly recommend you take a look at the jointer knives at Holbren, https://www.holbren.com/high-speed-steel-jointer-planer-knife-sets/ . They are top quality and very affordable.

- syenefarmer

Grant said,

Unless you’re face jointing highly figured lumber i highly recommend you get some fresh knife and give it a run first before investing in a shelix head. I’ve never had my hands on that particular jointer but I assume it’s a Taiwanese clone and should work just fine.”

I agree x 2. Holbren knives before the Shellix, though if you get a Byrd from Brian at Holbren, just say the words “Woodnet discount” Brian can sell you a Byrd with the bearings cup from Byrd already pressed on, using something generic from HF could be using a great part, but mounting it on crap bearings, which could be problematic. That would only be AFTER you try the good knives to make sure it warrants throwing more cash at it.

-- Think safe, be safe

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Kaminsknator

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#14 posted 12-21-2018 03:52 AM

Got the surface all cleaned up and waxed. Everything is square and straight. New blades installed. My issue seems to be the motor speed. It’s too slow. Unless you’re going super slow it has some tear out. It works just not that well. I’ve invested 120$ into it. Shouldn’t have any problem getting my money out of it.

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