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12-08-2018 05:13 PM

I have a friend with a persimon orchard. He has been giving me some of the wood. I wanted to make them a small cutting board from it as a nice gesture, maybe with a few pieces of walnut strip for some accent.

I re-sawed the pieces and then baked them in the oven at 180-190. I have a moisture meter and I am between 10-14% on most of the pieces. How low of moisture content should I try and get it so it doesn’t warp or pop the glue joints over time? Should I try and match the moisture of the walnut I am going to use with it?

The size of the board will probably be 12”x9” and 3/4” thick.


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#1 posted 12-11-2018 05:15 AM

I’m not an eggspurt on Persimmon, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn once. I’ve found it to be the worst behaved wood I have worked with, but I keep trying because I really like the look of it. I’ve worked it at 6% through 14, and it can/will move at any level, at least this is what I have seen. I keep pieces made from it for 2 years, and if they haven’t blown up by then, I will gift them. I had several more from this wood, many have bitten the dust, these guys are staying together pretty well though. I plan to make dividers for the inside, If for no other reason than to add some form, which I hope keeps them from moving around. Know this, it will reabsorb moisture more than any other wood I have used, so if it’s outside in a non conditioned building, it can/will go from 6% to 20 in a few days if the humidity is soaring. That is hard to work with.

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#2 posted 12-11-2018 05:36 AM

The boxes are around 5” tall, and the stock I worked them from was somewhere around 6.5” It started as 5/4 but ended as 5/8” finished, even cut to shorter lengths to make just boxes, it was twisted like a corkscrew. A lot of this went goners on the jointer/planer. The opposite was true of the Sapwood only pieces with almost no black (hardwood) that stuff you could build almost anything with, just know it will dull tools pretty quick, and it’s not so showy, really drab.

This box is now holding tissues on LOML’s desk at work. She took it the day I finished it. I put a piece of weird Mesquite on as a top, because the body was so drab looking. That went from lumber, to out the door 3 days later, probably 12 to 14%, but it had air dried about 3 years in my buddies barn before I got it.

That Mesquite was almost diseased. I think a few more weeks of wherever it was that corner would have been punky. The other shot shows the most exciting shot of that dull box.

Some info from other sources, Wood Database says good to turn, if you have a lathe. I have tried to make bigger pieces, just no luck on my end. A friends Son made the guy who is growing all this stuff a gun rack, a 4 place gun rack, and it is well behaved for over 25 years. The gun rack has a heavy vein of black hardwood. Maybe I’m just not lucky.

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#3 posted 12-11-2018 02:53 PM

Thanks Steve that is helpful. I got the moisture down to 5%. I really like those boxes you made. The persimmon with the black running through it is beautiful to me.

The pieces that I wanted to use for the cutting board I cut the black out thinking it was unstable. Its like you said, without the other tones the wood is not that good looking. When I put it up next to the walnut and maple it actually looks pretty ugly.

I don’t think Im going to use it for a cutting a board. I gave a few rounds to my neighbor who is very good with the lathe. He made a few little change bowls out of it that were very nice with the black tones running through them.

I think I will just focus on lathe work with this wood.

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#4 posted 12-11-2018 03:51 PM

I am sure he would appreciate your endeavor but I suggest a more appropriate wood and use the persimmon as the accent.

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